Same thing with Texas and Obama... It's all the same story over and
over...
On 02/14/2017 12:55 PM, Sam Morris wrote:
Jerry Brown then: Trump is not my president!
Jerry Brown now: President Trump, will you please give us some money?
:)
On 2/13/2017 1:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
are they opening dams downstream?
they really could truck in a bunch of 4 foot tile to siphon over the
banks and direct the flow past the work areas, close the dam gates and
initiate the repairs. I dont think I would want to be working the boats
placing the tile topside though
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
Putting plates into a waterflow of that volume will pretty much be
certain to rip out of the concrete or create erosion of the concrete
around the attachment points. Cavitation is a bitch... Right now
they can't stop the flow. Also pretty much most of the spillway
below the hole is gone, so there isn't a lot to attach it to. The
turbines are shut down right now because the erosion has created a
dam in the stream that has raised the water levels upstream to the
point they cannot operate the turbines. The turbines were maxed
out at 15K cfs up to that point. Yeah, I have been pretty much
obsessing over this... My inlaws were stuck going nowhere in Yuba
city last night for 4 hours in gridlock ( at one point not moving
for 2 hours. ) before deciding it was safer at the house on the
second floor...
On 02/13/2017 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Easy to armchair quarterback but I would think they could bolt 1
inch
plates over the hole in the main spillway, put some I beam piles
under
the plates and open it back up. At least until they take some
inches
off the reservoir. I wonder if there is a way they can set the
angle on
the turbines to waste more water there too.
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam
As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is
supporting
the 100K cfs without further damage. If that it true, then
there is
the ability to deal with what's happening over the next couple
of weeks,
which looks like 4-5 sequential storms. We got a 4-5 day
break in
weather this week but if it goes back to last months pattern we
are in
serious trouble throughout the west. That spillway needs to do
100K cfs
for weeks to keep pressure off the hillside below the emergency
spillway. Californa and the Feds were sued over in 2005 to put
concrete down on that hillside by the Sierra Club. The worse
case
situation is that the lake goes over the emergency spillway, it
erodes
below, the spillway fails and the hill below what was the
spillway just
keeps going away. Moving water, and it would be a lot, would
grand
canyon the hill... It would be enough water to destroy most
of the
feather river and Sacramento levee system below the dam.. That
would
be really really bad... ( Inlaws in Yuba city )...
On 02/13/2017 08:47 AM, Jason Wilson wrote:
100,000cfs is correct. That spillway will support
250,000cfs, but the
Feather River channel will only support about 216,000cfs.
It has been
10 years since the Channel has been stressed to this point,
last time
there were levee breaches. Their hope is to drawdown the
reservoir 50
feet below the rim to do a couple things, one is to take
pressure off of
the presumed damaged emergency spillway. The other is to
make room for
precip that is coming into california towards the end of the
week. Of
course they cannot do any repairs to the facility until
after the rainy
season is over, and the snowmelt had finished.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>>
wrote:
I heard a reporter saying that the water going over
that spillway
was doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I have a
really hard time
visualizing that amount of water. Could also have been
a mis-quote
by the reporter...
bp
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On 2/13/2017 8:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
So the �good news� is they�re going to drop
bags of rocks
from helicopters?____
__�__
I hope my good news never involves helicopters
dropping rocks.____
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