That's a pretty irrational stance to take, being 100% against a resource I mean.
It is not irrational to reduce dependency on anything though, for a variety of reasons. On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:08 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Try to make industrial amounts of electricity without oil. Even > hydroelectric turbines need lube. Transformers are filled with oil. If you > are against oil, be against oil. > > -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 8:58 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread > > I'm trying to figure out what electricity has to do with oil from your > statement. > > You can also make a decision to reduce oil consumption where logical. > This would be a good thing from a monetary and national defense > standpoint among other things. > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:55 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Being against oil but using oil... >> Think FedEx can do its thing without oil? >> >> If you are truly against oil, stop using it. >> Go to the forest. No kerosene lamps, deer fat tallow candles perhaps. >> No guns, takes oil to make guns... >> >> etc >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 8:53 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread >> >> Would you mind clarifying the follow a bit? Thanks >> >> "Being against oil but using electricity and vehicles and FedEx." >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I like driving my gas and diesel vehicles. >>> I like the products derived from oil like the jacket on CAT 5 cable and >>> printed circuit boards. >>> I like the price of oil to be as low as possible. >>> I prefer having sources in this hemisphere and not funding the Arab >>> world. >>> >>> I too have built many miles of copper and fiber over public and tribal >>> lands. I have gone through the exact same NEPA and FLPMA process as the >>> pipeline many many times. I consider myself a NEPA expert and am >>> currently >>> advising the US Senate on ways to make that process work faster. >>> >>> Pissing and moaning that folks with more money than you are building a >>> pipe >>> to make even more money than you sounds like sour grapes and jealousy. If >>> you are against the “commons” don’t use common frequencies. Don’t use >>> ROWs. >>> Don’t use electricity. >>> >>> I don’t get several things: >>> >>> Being against oil but using electricity and vehicles and FedEx. >>> Being against certain forms of arguably safer and more efficient oil >>> transportation. >>> Being against certain rich people doing business but attempting to become >>> a >>> richer person yourself. >>> Being against the use of public and private ROWs for oil pipelines but >>> not >>> for water pipelines, natural gas pipelines, sewers, fiber cables or >>> electric. >>> >>> And being a second or third generation wanna-be 1960s social justice >>> warrior >>> going thousands of miles to hang with other like minded people and think >>> you >>> are really doing anything be being cold, being an ass, being stupid and >>> wasting your time and the resources of local, state and federal >>> authorities. >>> Those folks are punks. (Their parents probably have BA in liberal arts). >>> >>> And yes, BTW, I too have made deals with tribes. It is as Lewis >>> describes. >>> You make the deal, you pay the money and more often than not when tribal >>> leadership changes, the deal no longer exists and you have another round >>> of >>> payola. I have native American heritage in my blood. Don’t get all butt >>> hurt when I say it is called “indian giving” for a reason. Tribes have >>> communal property. You never own anything, you just possess it for a >>> time >>> until some other tribal member decides they need it. That spills over to >>> dealing with non tribal members. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_giver >>> >>> >> >
