Chris,

Nothing I have requires any additional fees. I'm not using their management
system and I don't have any support at all. Yes, from a seller we
originally found on Alibaba.

Gerard


On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:05 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:

Gerard,
Looking at Baltic's website they seem to sell several software licenses for
this ZTE GPON equipment. Like $50 per PON Port license, $5.50 per ONT, etc.
Also $2100 for some server software. Are these required? Are you buying
them on AliBaba? Or does it somehow work without the licenscing/server
software?

Thanks
Chris

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Dupont III <ger...@shelbybb.com>
wrote:

That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the GTGO 8 port
card.

We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco batteries
or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink cards with a PRAM and
do AC directly inside the C320.

There are slight differences between these parts. For example, the SMXA
uplink card has different subcards. One is 10G and other is just 1G. Card
SMXA subcard UCDC/3 is what you want for 10G. Same for the ETP4830-A1, one
of the subcards has ethernet and the other 2 models only have RS232/RS485.


On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using?

https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-OLT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.zODsrR&s=p

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says...

I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics.  LOL!

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem.  Not buying Alphion, ZTE.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:

Interesting …. do they work ok?

I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more
than that.  I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk
in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.


On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power
Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the
split.  Check Alibaba.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
wrote:

Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in
another OLT if needed.

On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1.
The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.

On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.


Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.


I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?


The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause
some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.


AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still
supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much
on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards
compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But
again, lots of power is required.


*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All
the splitters etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5
Mbps symmetrical all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could
sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.


*From:* Carlos Alcantar

*Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year
giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.



Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> / car...@race.com /
http://www.race.com

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*From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup <
george.sko...@cbcast.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and
watching Netflix.

The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the
utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another
switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The
network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just
don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.

Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of
rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want
more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll
build it.

On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Alphion does, yes.


On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

What kind of costs are you talking?
Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?

Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
-----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04,
2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG]
Small-scale GPON

We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time
around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the
AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small
deployments?

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