Chuck -

Do you have model numbers for the OLT/ONT you are buying?

Is the documentation / interface in English?

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

> I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem.  Not buying Alphion, ZTE.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
>
>> Interesting …. do they work ok?
>>
>> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more
>> than that.  I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk
>> in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power
>> Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the
>> split.  Check Alibaba.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in
>>> another OLT if needed.
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was
>>> 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might
>>>> cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can
>>>> still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that
>>>> much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially
>>>> backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like
>>>> mine. But again, lots of power is required.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
>>>> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All
>>>> the splitters etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5
>>>> Mbps symmetrical all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could
>>>> sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this
>>>> year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>>
>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>>
>>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>>>
>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> / car...@race.com /
>>>> http://www.race.com
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup <
>>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones
>>>> and watching Netflix.
>>>>
>>>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the
>>>> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another
>>>> switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The
>>>> network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just
>>>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
>>>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
>>>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood
>>>> of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want
>>>> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll
>>>> build it.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alphion does, yes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What kind of costs are you talking?
>>>> Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?
>>>>
>>>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March
>>>> 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG]
>>>> Small-scale GPON
>>>>
>>>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this
>>>> time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed
>>>> the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for
>>>> small deployments?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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