No From: Jeremy Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
So, we used to use Cisco DC switches and power everything with the GIGE-POE-APC. On the sites that have been upgraded to Netonix switches, I still power them with the surge suppressor, and just use the Netonix as a switch....so I am not using the POE of the Netonix. On new sites we have been running straight NEtonix without the suppressors. Are there any issues with using the suppressors with Netonix switches in the event that we are still powering them with the suppressors? On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]> wrote: What is the lesser of two problems. Leaving a lot of expensive stuff unprotected or risk replacing a Netonix switch? Chuck McCown wrote: I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top or bottom. If it is POE and powered by a passive source you run a risk of smoking it with any surge suppressor. I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put inline with Netonix. The second is adding fusing to my surge protectors if I can fit it in. The external in line fuse product is ready for prototyping. *From:* David Coudron *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix We are also very interested in this topic. We will be building out 10 new towers in the next few months, and will be making the change to Netonix switches (we had previously used a different type of switch). I the past we had put Transtector surge protectors on the tower top and in the cabinet on the ground. From what you are saying in thread, we should not plan on surge protectors in the cabinet, but what is the recommended change for the tower top, if any? Thanks, *David Coudron* [email protected]|*Mobile: *612-991-7474 *Advantenon, Inc. *cid:[email protected]<http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://www.twitter.com/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://www.facebook.com/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://blog.advantenon.com/> [email protected]|3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447|www.advantenon.com<http://www.advantenon.com/>|*Phone:*800-704-4720|*Local: *612-454-1545 *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer. It will not protect itself against shorts. *From:*Josh Baird *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM *To:*[email protected] *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix What exactly is the reason? We always run through your surge protectors before connecting to Netonix. On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, irrespective of manufacturer. *From:*[email protected] *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM *To:*[email protected] *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix? On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: I am going to fix this little problem... Netonix will fix your port for something like $25 *From:*Bill Prince *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM *To:*[email protected] *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium surge suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix. We were swapping from something else that had been on the cable, and completely forgot that it was going through that surge suppressor. Hard lesson learned. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: OK, had an exchange with Netonix today. It is just as Matt Hoppes said. You short out their POE and it will blow the Ethernet transformer. I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that could detect and shut down in an over current situation. They do have poly fuses which are slow to react and may protect it from a very brief short, but longer shorts will indeed harm the port feeding the transformer. So, Netonix is not active POE. I would say that on passive POE a plain surge suppressor should not be used. I am working some “non plain” surge suppressors now.... ;-) Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big thanks to Matt for forcing me to learn something new. It was painful, but I can do painful things when I have to. *From:*Chuck McCown *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM *To:*[email protected] *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix tnx *From:*Josh Luthman *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM *To:*[email protected] *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix chris.sisler ( A ) netlinx.net <http://netlinx.net> Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature> Version: 2016.0.8007 / Virus Database: 4769/14180 - Release Date: 03/24/17
