I would say yes.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Koep" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:23:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix Is this a design error that Netonix needs to correct? > What is the lesser of two problems. Leaving a lot of expensive stuff > unprotected or risk replacing a Netonix switch? > > Chuck McCown wrote: >> I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top or >> bottom. If it is POE and powered by a passive source you run a risk >> of smoking it with any surge suppressor. >> I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put inline >> with Netonix. The second is adding fusing to my surge protectors if >> I can fit it in. The external in line fuse product is ready for >> prototyping. >> *From:* David Coudron >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> We are also very interested in this topic. We will be building out >> 10 new towers in the next few months, and will be making the change >> to Netonix switches (we had previously used a different type of >> switch). I the past we had put Transtector surge protectors on the >> tower top and in the cabinet on the ground. From what you are saying >> in thread, we should not plan on surge protectors in the cabinet, but >> what is the recommended change for the tower top, if any? >> >> Thanks, >> >> *David Coudron* >> >> [email protected]|*Mobile: *612-991-7474 >> >> *Advantenon, Inc. >> *cid:[email protected]<http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://www.twitter.com/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://www.facebook.com/Advantenon>cid:[email protected]<http://blog.advantenon.com/> >> >> >> [email protected]|3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN >> 55447|www.advantenon.com<http://www.advantenon.com/>|*Phone:*800-704-4720|*Local: >> >> *612-454-1545 >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, >> you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer. It will not >> protect itself against shorts. >> >> *From:*Josh Baird >> >> *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> What exactly is the reason? We always run through your surge >> protectors before connecting to Netonix. >> >> >> On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, >> irrespective of manufacturer. >> >> *From:*[email protected] >> >> *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that >> are connected to Netonix? >> >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I am going to fix this little problem... >> >> Netonix will fix your port for something like $25 >> >> *From:*Bill Prince >> >> *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix >> >> Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium >> surge suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix. We >> were swapping from something else that had been on the cable, >> and completely forgot that it was going through that surge >> suppressor. Hard lesson learned. >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> OK, had an exchange with Netonix today. It is just as >> Matt Hoppes said. You short out their POE and it will blow >> the Ethernet transformer. >> >> I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that >> could detect and shut down in an over current situation. >> They do have poly fuses which are slow to react and may >> protect it from a very brief short, but longer shorts will >> indeed harm the port feeding the transformer. >> >> So, Netonix is not active POE. I would say that on >> passive POE a plain surge suppressor should not be used. >> I am working some “non plain” surge suppressors now.... >> ;-) Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big thanks to >> Matt for forcing me to learn something new. It was >> painful, but I can do painful things when I have to. >> >> *From:*Chuck McCown >> >> *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix >> >> tnx >> >> *From:*Josh Luthman >> >> *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM >> >> *To:*[email protected] >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix >> >> chris.sisler >> >> ( A ) >> >> netlinx.net <http://netlinx.net> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix? >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature> >> Version: 2016.0.8007 / Virus Database: 4769/14180 - Release Date: >> 03/24/17 >> > > -- Mitch Koep A Better Wireless 218-851-8689 cell
