Unless the backhaul is an airfiber, right? Didn't they add a feature to
drop Ethernet on disconnect just for this reason, or am I imagining things?

On Mar 31, 2017 10:50 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:

A switch in line breaks the capabilities of the backhaul to drop the
Ethernet to force the IGP to reconverge immediately.




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*From: *"Paul McCall" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Friday, March 31, 2017 9:38:37 AM

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

If I had to guess when someone says they don’t want a switch up top, its
probably because of a practical consideration.   Its why we didn’t put
Netonix up there.  We wanted simple.  The “switch” part of the S16 is non
“thing” to us.  The VLANs are needed only because BHs are in it and OSPF
needs to have an interface to address, etc.



Rip apart and S16 and add Sync Forrest !



Paul 😊



*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
(List Account)

*Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 10:08 AM
*To:* af <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?



What I keep hearing from customers is that they want to run a multistrand
cable up the tower and have an all in one box at the top which they
terminate the cable into, hook up power to it,  and then run short jumpers
to their radios.   I've heard this from enough different customers that it
seems like a common desire.



They all seem to want the box to do media conversion and power injection
and sync,  with remote control and not much more.   When quizzed about just
doing a switch and an injector up top, they all expressed how this was
unacceptable.



At this point I'm looking at feasability.  I'm not sure if this will ever
see the light of day,  a lot depends on the amount of R&D required.



On Mar 31, 2017 7:07 AM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> wrote:

Forrest,



For what it is worth, when we went Fiber (MST) up the tower, we run UBNT
S16s up there which is simple and working well, and GPS pucks on the ePMP,
or Syncbox 12 (or Junior) for devices that need sync.  We have a handful of
450s, 25  320s, and a dozen or so 900s where we use the SyncBox.



Been very pleased so far with the reliability of the S16 POE.  We VLAN APs
in one group and BH’s each on their own VLAN, and bring it down the fiber.
If we have other devices with fiber, we bring them down on their own fiber
(off the same MST).  Of course there is core router with fiber inputs only
being used (with the exception of the sitemonitor which I may have to buy a
media converter for just to isolate the electrical connection into the
router.



So, as far as anything up top, I would think it would have to be some form
of switch, or it would be quite kludgy.



Paul



*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
(List Account)

*Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:26 PM
*To:* af <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?



I've torn a couple apart that use a fairly easy to use chipset.  But only
available in commercial temperature range.



Some of the battle here is figuring out the vendors who do this type of
stuff.  I want to avoid switches since I want this as transparent as
possible,  but I might end up having to go there.  I have another secret
weapon in my arsenal but I'm hoping I don't have to go there since that's
more software and software takes time.



On Mar 30, 2017 2:21 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

I looked at doing media converters last year.  Not trivial.



*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)

*Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:07 PM

*To:* af

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?



Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at.



I'm looking at various options to build a tower-top box to simplify the
fiber up the tower with syncronized radios at the top..  Think a multiport
ubiquiti fiberpoe with sync over power and a gps receiver built in, along
with tower-top management.



I don't want to include a switch up top - most people want as little as
possible up there, and I'd rather keep the whole thing as simple as
possible - I'd rather just use a copper-to-sfp chipset, but I haven't found
any which I feel comfortable integrating.   So I need to tear some more of
the units apart to figure out what chipsets are available.



-forrest



On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

RB260.

Haven't had one fail due to cold yet that I know of.  That's a switch, so
maybe it's more complicated than you're going for.





------ Original Message ------

From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <[email protected]>

To: "af" <[email protected]>

Sent: 3/30/2017 1:45:52 AM

Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?



I want to buy another selection of gigabit copper to sfp converters for
reverse engineering purposes.  Ideally some which are known to work well
and especially any which don't fail in non climate controlled environments.



What is everyone using?





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