You still have a physical link from the switch<>router which remains up.
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > So IGP path runs over AirFiber path that is connected to switch. AirFiber > link fades below a certain level. This forces Ethernet drop to switch. IGP > path is now broken. IGP path drops hellos, IGP reconverges on alternate > path. > > What am I missing? > > On Apr 2, 2017 9:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> That feature doesn't work if there's a switch in the middle. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:41:47 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? >> >> Unless the backhaul is an airfiber, right? Didn't they add a feature to >> drop Ethernet on disconnect just for this reason, or am I imagining things? >> >> On Mar 31, 2017 10:50 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> A switch in line breaks the capabilities of the backhaul to drop the >> Ethernet to force the IGP to reconverge immediately. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, March 31, 2017 9:38:37 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? >> >> If I had to guess when someone says they don’t want a switch up top, its >> probably because of a practical consideration. Its why we didn’t put >> Netonix up there. We wanted simple. The “switch” part of the S16 is non >> “thing” to us. The VLANs are needed only because BHs are in it and OSPF >> needs to have an interface to address, etc. >> >> >> >> Rip apart and S16 and add Sync Forrest ! >> >> >> >> Paul 😊 >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest >> Christian (List Account) >> >> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 10:08 AM >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? >> >> >> >> What I keep hearing from customers is that they want to run a multistrand >> cable up the tower and have an all in one box at the top which they >> terminate the cable into, hook up power to it, and then run short jumpers >> to their radios. I've heard this from enough different customers that it >> seems like a common desire. >> >> >> >> They all seem to want the box to do media conversion and power injection >> and sync, with remote control and not much more. When quizzed about just >> doing a switch and an injector up top, they all expressed how this was >> unacceptable. >> >> >> >> At this point I'm looking at feasability. I'm not sure if this will ever >> see the light of day, a lot depends on the amount of R&D required. >> >> >> >> On Mar 31, 2017 7:07 AM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >> Forrest, >> >> >> >> For what it is worth, when we went Fiber (MST) up the tower, we run UBNT >> S16s up there which is simple and working well, and GPS pucks on the ePMP, >> or Syncbox 12 (or Junior) for devices that need sync. We have a handful of >> 450s, 25 320s, and a dozen or so 900s where we use the SyncBox. >> >> >> >> Been very pleased so far with the reliability of the S16 POE. We VLAN >> APs in one group and BH’s each on their own VLAN, and bring it down the >> fiber. If we have other devices with fiber, we bring them down on their >> own fiber (off the same MST). Of course there is core router with fiber >> inputs only being used (with the exception of the sitemonitor which I may >> have to buy a media converter for just to isolate the electrical connection >> into the router. >> >> >> >> So, as far as anything up top, I would think it would have to be some >> form of switch, or it would be quite kludgy. >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest >> Christian (List Account) >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:26 PM >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? >> >> >> >> I've torn a couple apart that use a fairly easy to use chipset. But only >> available in commercial temperature range. >> >> >> >> Some of the battle here is figuring out the vendors who do this type of >> stuff. I want to avoid switches since I want this as transparent as >> possible, but I might end up having to go there. I have another secret >> weapon in my arsenal but I'm hoping I don't have to go there since that's >> more software and software takes time. >> >> >> >> On Mar 30, 2017 2:21 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> I looked at doing media converters last year. Not trivial. >> >> >> >> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:07 PM >> >> *To:* af >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? >> >> >> >> Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at. >> >> >> >> I'm looking at various options to build a tower-top box to simplify the >> fiber up the tower with syncronized radios at the top.. Think a multiport >> ubiquiti fiberpoe with sync over power and a gps receiver built in, along >> with tower-top management. >> >> >> >> I don't want to include a switch up top - most people want as little as >> possible up there, and I'd rather keep the whole thing as simple as >> possible - I'd rather just use a copper-to-sfp chipset, but I haven't found >> any which I feel comfortable integrating. So I need to tear some more of >> the units apart to figure out what chipsets are available. >> >> >> >> -forrest >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> RB260. >> >> Haven't had one fail due to cold yet that I know of. That's a switch, so >> maybe it's more complicated than you're going for. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <li...@packetflux.com> >> >> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> >> >> Sent: 3/30/2017 1:45:52 AM >> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? >> >> >> >> I want to buy another selection of gigabit copper to sfp converters for >> reverse engineering purposes. Ideally some which are known to work well >> and especially any which don't fail in non climate controlled environments. >> >> >> >> What is everyone using? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Forrest Christian* *CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* >> >> Tel: 406-449-3345 <(406)%20449-3345> | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, >> Helena, MT 59602 >> >> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com >> >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> >> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> >> >> >> >> >>