You still have a physical link from the switch<>router which remains up.

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> So IGP path runs over AirFiber path that is connected to switch. AirFiber
> link fades below a certain level. This forces Ethernet drop to switch. IGP
> path is now broken. IGP path drops hellos, IGP reconverges on alternate
> path.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> On Apr 2, 2017 9:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> That feature doesn't work if there's a switch in the middle.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:41:47 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?
>>
>> Unless the backhaul is an airfiber, right? Didn't they add a feature to
>> drop Ethernet on disconnect just for this reason, or am I imagining things?
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2017 10:50 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> A switch in line breaks the capabilities of the backhaul to drop the
>> Ethernet to force the IGP to reconverge immediately.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 31, 2017 9:38:37 AM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?
>>
>> If I had to guess when someone says they don’t want a switch up top, its
>> probably because of a practical consideration.   Its why we didn’t put
>> Netonix up there.  We wanted simple.  The “switch” part of the S16 is non
>> “thing” to us.  The VLANs are needed only because BHs are in it and OSPF
>> needs to have an interface to address, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rip apart and S16 and add Sync Forrest !
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul 😊
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>> Christian (List Account)
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 10:08 AM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?
>>
>>
>>
>> What I keep hearing from customers is that they want to run a multistrand
>> cable up the tower and have an all in one box at the top which they
>> terminate the cable into, hook up power to it,  and then run short jumpers
>> to their radios.   I've heard this from enough different customers that it
>> seems like a common desire.
>>
>>
>>
>> They all seem to want the box to do media conversion and power injection
>> and sync,  with remote control and not much more.   When quizzed about just
>> doing a switch and an injector up top, they all expressed how this was
>> unacceptable.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point I'm looking at feasability.  I'm not sure if this will ever
>> see the light of day,  a lot depends on the amount of R&D required.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2017 7:07 AM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>
>> Forrest,
>>
>>
>>
>> For what it is worth, when we went Fiber (MST) up the tower, we run UBNT
>> S16s up there which is simple and working well, and GPS pucks on the ePMP,
>> or Syncbox 12 (or Junior) for devices that need sync.  We have a handful of
>> 450s, 25  320s, and a dozen or so 900s where we use the SyncBox.
>>
>>
>>
>> Been very pleased so far with the reliability of the S16 POE.  We VLAN
>> APs in one group and BH’s each on their own VLAN, and bring it down the
>> fiber.  If we have other devices with fiber, we bring them down on their
>> own fiber (off the same MST).  Of course there is core router with fiber
>> inputs only being used (with the exception of the sitemonitor which I may
>> have to buy a media converter for just to isolate the electrical connection
>> into the router.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, as far as anything up top, I would think it would have to be some
>> form of switch, or it would be quite kludgy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>> Christian (List Account)
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:26 PM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?
>>
>>
>>
>> I've torn a couple apart that use a fairly easy to use chipset.  But only
>> available in commercial temperature range.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some of the battle here is figuring out the vendors who do this type of
>> stuff.  I want to avoid switches since I want this as transparent as
>> possible,  but I might end up having to go there.  I have another secret
>> weapon in my arsenal but I'm hoping I don't have to go there since that's
>> more software and software takes time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2017 2:21 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> I looked at doing media converters last year.  Not trivial.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:07 PM
>>
>> *To:* af
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking at various options to build a tower-top box to simplify the
>> fiber up the tower with syncronized radios at the top..  Think a multiport
>> ubiquiti fiberpoe with sync over power and a gps receiver built in, along
>> with tower-top management.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't want to include a switch up top - most people want as little as
>> possible up there, and I'd rather keep the whole thing as simple as
>> possible - I'd rather just use a copper-to-sfp chipset, but I haven't found
>> any which I feel comfortable integrating.   So I need to tear some more of
>> the units apart to figure out what chipsets are available.
>>
>>
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> RB260.
>>
>> Haven't had one fail due to cold yet that I know of.  That's a switch, so
>> maybe it's more complicated than you're going for.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>>
>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <li...@packetflux.com>
>>
>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
>>
>> Sent: 3/30/2017 1:45:52 AM
>>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to buy another selection of gigabit copper to sfp converters for
>> reverse engineering purposes.  Ideally some which are known to work well
>> and especially any which don't fail in non climate controlled environments.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is everyone using?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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