The gamers won't like the latency at all...

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Time to invest in RR stock.  Screw fiber.
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 10:33 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
>
> Well, assuming that the rail was moving at a similar speed to the trucks -
> say 60MPH, And the rail cars were ~60 feet in length, and had the same
> volume as the 53 foot truck.
>
> 60MPH = 316,800 FPH / 60 Feet = 5280 Railcars per hour, 88 railcars per
> minute, 1.46666 rail cars per second.
>
> Once the first one arrived, you'd have a continous feed of 26857.6Pbit/S
>
> Get to work on the automatic tape transcription device.  You only need to
> write ~557,136 tapes per second, and don't forget loading them on the
> train...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar transport???  We could
>> eliminate all the fiber with railroads!
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 10:15 AM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
>>
>> Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
>>
>> Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet.
>>
>> A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB
>> The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot
>> (0.00839973....)  We'll use 0.01 cubic foot.
>>
>> A 53 foot trailer packed completely full can hold 381600 Tapes X 6TB =
>> 2,289,600TB, or 2289 PB.
>>
>> 2,289,600TB/30hours = 76320TB/hr.
>> or
>> 1272TB/min
>> or
>> 21.2TB/sec.
>> or
>> 169.6Tbit/second.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't remember which but there was a nanog presentation a few years
>>> ago about max bandwidth and the top of the chart was still listed as a 747
>>> cargo full of optical media..   Now as far as getting that data on and off
>>> the media....
>>>
>>> On 04/17/2017 07:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the seed you need to understand this quote:
>>>>
>>>> "/Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes
>>>> hurtling down the highway/." —Tanenbaum, Andrew S. (1989). Computer
>>>> Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 57. ISBN 0-13-166836-6.
>>>>
>>>> I'd highly recommend you think about how to move that seed via Fedex or
>>>> UPS.    You're already going to be storing the data somewhere, if
>>>> possible, take whatever it is your storing it on (or backing it up on)
>>>> to the origin location and copy it to it.... *then* ship it to and
>>>> install it in your datacenter.   It is likely that the cost of doing
>>>> this will actually be less than the cost of buying a circuit which will
>>>> do this in a reasonable amount of time, especially if you are buying a
>>>> piece of hardware to store this data (likely).
>>>>
>>>> For the updates,  4pb per year is just over 1Mb/s if I did the math
>>>> correctly....   This is in the realm of normal internet, assuming the
>>>> data grows gradually throughout a year.
>>>>
>>>> I'll let others point you toward a 10Gig wave if you'd rather not use
>>>> the "move media" approach.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Zach Underwood <zunder1...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:zunder1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I work for a medical data company and we have a possible project
>>>>     where will be getting data from a human genome company. What would
>>>>     be a option for move the data between our datacenter and there
>>>>     datacenter? We are in the southeast and they are in the midwest. The
>>>>     data amount would be a seed of 5pb and growth of 4pb per year. The
>>>>     networking on our side would be 100gbit LAN.
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>>     Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>>>     My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>>     advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
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>>
>>
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