Very high res...
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 11:20 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
I like it, you may be on to something. So we basically just need to
convince the gamers to become good old fashioned bums that ride around
on freight trains all day...
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Gamers have to actually get in a RR car and physically fight.
Much more realistic and very low latency.
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 11:06 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
The gamers won't like the latency at all...
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
Time to invest in RR stock. Screw fiber.
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 10:33 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
Well, assuming that the rail was moving at a similar speed to
the trucks - say 60MPH, And the rail cars were ~60 feet in
length, and had the same volume as the 53 foot truck.
60MPH = 316,800 FPH / 60 Feet = 5280 Railcars per hour, 88
railcars per minute, 1.46666 rail cars per second.
Once the first one arrived, you'd have a continous feed of
26857.6Pbit/S
Get to work on the automatic tape transcription device. You
only need to write ~557,136 tapes per second, and don't forget
loading them on the train...
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar
transport??? We could eliminate all the fiber with railroads!
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 10:15 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet.
A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB
The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot
(0.00839973....) We'll use 0.01 cubic foot.
A 53 foot trailer packed completely full can hold 381600
Tapes X 6TB = 2,289,600TB, or 2289 PB.
2,289,600TB/30hours = 76320TB/hr.
or
1272TB/min
or
21.2TB/sec.
or
169.6Tbit/second.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Robert Andrews
<i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
I can't remember which but there was a nanog
presentation a few years ago about max bandwidth and
the top of the chart was still listed as a 747 cargo
full of optical media.. Now as far as getting that
data on and off the media....
On 04/17/2017 07:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List
Account) wrote:
For the seed you need to understand this quote:
"/Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station
wagon full of tapes
hurtling down the highway/." —Tanenbaum, Andrew S.
(1989). Computer
Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 57. ISBN
0-13-166836-6.
I'd highly recommend you think about how to move
that seed via Fedex or
UPS. You're already going to be storing the
data somewhere, if
possible, take whatever it is your storing it on
(or backing it up on)
to the origin location and copy it to it....
*then* ship it to and
install it in your datacenter. It is likely that
the cost of doing
this will actually be less than the cost of buying
a circuit which will
do this in a reasonable amount of time, especially
if you are buying a
piece of hardware to store this data (likely).
For the updates, 4pb per year is just over 1Mb/s
if I did the math
correctly.... This is in the realm of normal
internet, assuming the
data grows gradually throughout a year.
I'll let others point you toward a 10Gig wave if
you'd rather not use
the "move media" approach.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Zach Underwood
<zunder1...@gmail.com
<mailto:zunder1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I work for a medical data company and we have
a possible project
where will be getting data from a human genome
company. What would
be a option for move the data between our
datacenter and there
datacenter? We are in the southeast and they are
in the midwest. The
data amount would be a seed of 5pb and growth
of 4pb per year. The
networking on our side would be 100gbit LAN.
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