The power taps are what would kill anything but a very dense deployment. Anything less and you'd be better off just running fiber.
On Monday, May 8, 2017, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think the 30 degree sector Ignitenet has is something like 18dbi, vs > 25dbi for their bigger directional... I tried to get a pair of Metrolinqs > to work at just under a mile (which should theoretically work), but I never > could get them to link. I tested at about half that distance and it worked > fine... I don't remember what the signal was, but I thought at the time > that it would probably link with 17dbi less antenna. Even so, 1000' should > be workable, which still has a lot of potential. I've been toying with the > idea of putting them on street lights - I'm thinking you could do something > like one 30 degree sector at the end of each street and cover a block or > two. > > Heck, even if you only figured 500'-1000', you could build a network > pretty cheaply using street lights. > > Of course it is only going to be useful in pretty specific areas... at the > majority of our towers 60ghz is going to be completely worthless, but I can > certainly find places where it would work. > > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eric.kuh...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Even if it existed 2000 ft is wildly optimistic. 60 GHz works at 600 >> meters (just about 2000 ft for you Americans) between two PTP dishes >> because you have 44-45dBi gain dishes on both ends. Would not be the case >> with any sort of 60 GHz sector antenna, you'd be looking at much less gain. >> >> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> Very location specific. None of our towers would be able to serve anyone >>> with that kind of range. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 5/8/2017 2:15 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >>> >>> Indeed... don't underestimate what can be done with a 2000' range. I can >>> probably cover a hundred houses with that from the tower next to where I'm >>> sitting. >>> >>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote: >>> >>>> I concur >>>> >>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of >>>> Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net');>> >>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" >>>> <af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> >>>> Date: Monday, May 8, 2017 at 4:31 PM >>>> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < >>>> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? >>>> >>>> Lots. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lots of places. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’ve got, and can get fiber up main roads in neighborhoods very easily. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What costs me is the last mile backbone that winds across streets and >>>> through ROW in front of houses etc. >>>> >>>> That is the majority of my costs right there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If I can get in with ‘normal’ wireless pricing per AP/CPE but at >>>> 1000Mbps I can do the hybrid model easily at much less costs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It will be amazing for potential customers at the moment. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Might not hold up over time as bandwidth needs increase, but provides >>>> an immediate solution at a fraction of the cost of fiber, with the ‘feel’ >>>> of fiber. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of >>>> *Colin >>>> Stanners >>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 8, 2017 2:29 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How many places do you want to install a PtMP system that goes a >>>> maximum of 1000-2000ft distance, that fiber does not work? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>>> President >>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net');>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What am I missing here? >>>> >>>> Can't Cambium and UBNT and others simply overlay the same radio >>>> architecture/software they have developed over a decade, on top of a 60GHz >>>> radio instead of 5Ghz? >>>> >>>> Is there some fundamental problem with using the same PHY later >>>> protocols on 60GHz vs 5GHz? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >