Yeah, found out last week at ultrasound, in ER since like 3 this
morning cause it went south, its a rough deal for her. Sorry, no good
analogy today
On Jun 15, 2017 4:28 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
<li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:
Are you saying what I think you're saying here?
If so, that really sucks.
On Jun 12, 2017 6:23 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
kernel panic
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
apparently, God had other plans
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Bruce Robertson
<br...@pooh.com <mailto:br...@pooh.com>> wrote:
If he has any income (especially earned) at all, then
yes on the tax evasion.
On 5/13/17 9:43 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
Don't you wonder? Is it?
On 05/13/2017 07:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
And he lives with continual exposure of prison
due to tax evasion.
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Screwed by whose definition? If he put all
that money that he would
have paid as taxes under his
bed/cabin/lean-to, he may be way... Way..
WAY better off...
On 05/12/2017 01:51 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
I believe that he is.
On 5/12/17 1:44 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
That's right. I remember that now
because we had to go to a little
extra effort to ensure my wife had 20
quarters, but then we learned
she gets half my benefit if it is
larger. So it really was not an
emergency after all.
But for the undocumented guy in the
woods, if he doesn't have 20
quarters of contributions I wonder if
he is screwed?
-----Original Message----- From: Bruce
Robertson
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall
maintenance
No, you don't. You have to contribute
for at least 20 (if I remember)
quarters to get benefits. And many
public employees, such as my wife
(University professor) don't pay into
social security at all - they have
an alternative plan that has the same
contribution requirements, but the
money goes into your own mutual funds.
On 5/12/17 1:35 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
When it comes time to collect
social security, they take your
highest
35 years of pay to do the
calculation. If you never put
anything in,
I wonder if you get any out?
-----Original Message----- From:
Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall
maintenance
I've heard tell of a local man
working in the construction trades who
was born at home and has no
documentation. Apparently he likes
it that
way. He works for cash and lives
in a cabin on his parents' land. I'm
not saying it's the right way, but
it's apparently an option.
------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 5/12/2017 12:29:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall
maintenance
Social Security didn't have
any linkage with the county health
department. We had to send the
birth certificate to them to
get the
SSN number. Sometimes that was
years later.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017
10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:
firewall maintenance
I thought the ssn was assigned
even if the card isn't sent...
On 5/12/17 9:16 AM,
ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Yep, separate process. At
least back in the day when
my kids were
born.
*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Friday, May 12,
2017 10:13 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT:
firewall maintenance
can you get a birth
certificate without having
to get the SSN
registered?
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at
12:13 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
72,73,74
On May 12, 2017 10:08
AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
wrote:
Until ICE deports
them to Syria.
*From:* Kurt
Fankhauser
*Sent:* Friday,
May 12, 2017 10:07 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re:
[AFMUG] OT: firewall
maintenance
If your kid
becomes un-documented and
never gets a SSN can
they
just fly under the
radar of society and never
pay taxes,
get a
drivers license,
etc? That would be awesome.
On Fri, May 12,
2017 at 11:02 AM,
<ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
wrote:
Go to the
county health department.
They will record the
birth and get
you a birth certificate
(in Illinois).
*From:* Steve
Jones
*Sent:*
Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM
*To:*
af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT:
firewall maintenance
we had the
existing 2 in the
hospital, the first one
had a
heart murmur
because the doctor in all
hi knowledge
decided
to induce a
month early, little runt
guy my son was,
but his
hole in his
heart closed up and he
outgrew his
runtness. the
second one had
an OB who was a man hating
believer in
bedrest and
refused to let my
paramedic sister get her
stork
pin.
The old lady
wants to do it at home. My
only issues
with it
are the mess,
the minimal risk of
complication, and
primarily the paperwork
the hospital handles, I don't
know
how that
works, do I just take the
fresh spawn up to the
police station
and get a sticker like a
bicycle
registration
or what? If I
mess up the paperwork does
my kid become an
illegal immigrant?
On Fri, May
12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Kurt
Fankhauser
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
A customer
of mine has 8 kids and and
least 5 of them
were
delivered at their house.
They hired a midwife
for
like $500
each time. It definitely
is a lot cheaper
than
hospitals around here are
charging at least 8k-10k
for
deliveries which I think
is bull since childbirth
is a
naturally occurring event
in nature all the time.
Some
women cant have a natural
birth and need a
C-section and
sometimes they don't
always know that until the
birth is
trying to happen. Maybe
have the first one in the
hospital and if it can
happen without a C-section
then
have the
other ones at home?
On Thu,
May 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM,
Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
wrote:
With a Leatherman Tool,
all things are possible.
*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Thursday, May 11,
2017 2:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT:
firewall maintenance
Chuck...that's just gross.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at
8:28 AM Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
wrote:
I personally delivered
5 of my 8 kids at
home.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, May
10, 2017 9:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
OT: firewall
maintenance
Im pretty sure its the
mail man again, shes a
pretty shady letter
carrier :-)
Ive grown up in an ems
family, two
paramedics,
two emt B and i was
an emt I, two were also
firefighters.
Twice now the
douchenozzle OB refused to
let my
paramedic sister
deliver for CE, note we are
(were at the
time)literally the most
advanced
ems system in the US.
And this hospital was
the
primary training
facility. We figure we will
tell the OB doc we
have this, we only need
her
for her bloodwork and
ultrasound, if they
wont
give my sis the
legally required joy, we will
get a dulla or however
you spell it and pop
the
kid in the living
room, mother nature trumps
modern science in this
regard.
There have to be a few
of you who popped yer
youngins outside a
hospital. Especially the
guys
who are joe smith
fans. 3 times out i
think we
are the ones in charge.
On May 9, 2017 3:59
PM, "Lewis Bergman"
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
I hope you know
the source of the
infection...if
not...awkward... Conrats!
On Tue, May 9,
2017 at 1:41 PM Darren
Shea
<darr...@ecpi.com
<mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>>
wrote:
Even after
seeing the stick, it
didn’t
quite register
until I re-read
everything you’d typed in this
thread -
clever!
Congratulations!____
____
*From:*Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>]
*On Behalf Of
*Steve Jones
*Sent:*
Tuesday, May 09, 2017
10:56 AM
*To:*
af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT:
firewall
maintenance____
____
Hers the
initial diagnostic
output____
____
On May 9, 2017
9:52 AM, "Steve Jones"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:____
There is only
one infected device.
The
malicious code that is
replicating is
directly
attached to the command and
control node.
I know a lot of people
would simply
CleanSweep, but we just
don't feel
that is an appropriate
step.
There may be
an IOT baby monitor that
gets swept up
in all this before its
over in
December. ____
On Tue, May 9,
2017 at 7:34 AM, David
Milholen
<dmilho...@wletc.com
<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>>
wrote:____
As any virus
running on a network
it has
a pattern
weather it be dormant on
the
network at
times or not. ____
Identify the
pattern and where it is
trying to
phone home to and
isolate it
from phoning
home. Then Clean sweep
the
machines you
have control of.____
The worst part
of any of this is that
IOT devices
IE(ip cameras,dvrs,
tempature monitors and
others) are
the
real threat as
they have weak basic
code
that is open
to the network.____
Isolation will be your
best bet. This
will prevent
DDOS attacks on one
front
but doesnt
stop new viruses from
entering.____
____
____
On 5/8/2017
10:34 PM, Steve Jones
wrote:____
an
addendum to this, there are
two
primay variants to the
payload.
One
tends to be much more
aggressive, a
much more
roughly defined code,
not
all that
pretty, but ultimately
very
versatile and robust. The
other is
normally more elegant in
design, but
it tends
to be visciously
malicious,
this is
the one to be most
concerned
of. Its
underlying code has
started
wars and
destroyed nations____
____
On Mon,
May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM,
Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:____
So this
weekend I
discovered a
Trojan virus on my network.
Sometime around January we
had
opted to remove an old
firewall
that had met its product life
cycles end. We were still
in the
process of deciding
whether to
continue with temporary
firewalls or look toward more
robust input/output chain
policies for a hardened, more
permanent solution. In the
mean
time, of course, we
continued to
do the upload/download
thing. We
had some suspicion that there
was something going on, we
noted
alot of broadcast storms,
particularly in the mornings.
The network had become
particularly sluggish and
there
seemed to be alot of
application
bloat, initially i just
attributed this to poor code
maintenance resulting in a
memory
leak.____
We did a
basic Netstat this
weekend and discovered a
traffic
anomaly. So we went to a
professional and had them
run a
packet sniffer. We had
verification of foreign code,
likely for as long as 6-8
weeks.____
It will
be layer 3 in this
case
but its
too early to tell
whether this codes payload
will
be TCP
or UDP, we will be
monitoring as the code
replicates. This is a pretty
common virus, as a matter of
fact we
have all had it at
one
point, probably so long
ago we
dont
even remember. We
anticipate The fully formed
packet chain to leave NAT
mode
and be
fully routed out to
the
WAN in
December.____
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