Yep, separate process. At least back in the day when my kids were
born.
*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
can you get a birth certificate without having to get the SSN
registered?
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
72,73,74
On May 12, 2017 10:08 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Until ICE deports them to Syria.
*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can
they
just fly under the radar of society and never pay taxes, get a
drivers license, etc? That would be awesome.
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Go to the county health department. They will record the
birth and get you a birth certificate (in Illinois).
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one had a
heart murmur because the doctor in all hi knowledge
decided
to induce a month early, little runt guy my son was,
but his
hole in his heart closed up and he outgrew his
runtness. the
second one had an OB who was a man hating believer in
bedrest and refused to let my paramedic sister get her
stork
pin.
The old lady wants to do it at home. My only issues
with it
are the mess, the minimal risk of complication, and
primarily the paperwork the hospital handles, I don't know
how that works, do I just take the fresh spawn up to the
police station and get a sticker like a bicycle
registration
or what? If I mess up the paperwork does my kid become an
illegal immigrant?
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
A customer of mine has 8 kids and and least 5 of them
were delivered at their house. They hired a midwife
for
like $500 each time. It definitely is a lot cheaper
than
hospitals around here are charging at least 8k-10k for
deliveries which I think is bull since childbirth is a
naturally occurring event in nature all the time. Some
women cant have a natural birth and need a
C-section and
sometimes they don't always know that until the
birth is
trying to happen. Maybe have the first one in the
hospital and if it can happen without a C-section then
have the other ones at home?
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
With a Leatherman Tool, all things are possible.
*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Chuck...that's just gross.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I personally delivered 5 of my 8 kids at home.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall
maintenance
Im pretty sure its the mail man again, shes a
pretty shady letter carrier :-)
Ive grown up in an ems family, two paramedics,
two emt B and i was an emt I, two were also
firefighters.
Twice now the douchenozzle OB refused to
let my
paramedic sister deliver for CE, note we are
(were at the time)literally the most advanced
ems system in the US. And this hospital was
the
primary training facility. We figure we will
tell the OB doc we have this, we only need her
for her bloodwork and ultrasound, if they wont
give my sis the legally required joy, we will
get a dulla or however you spell it and pop
the
kid in the living room, mother nature trumps
modern science in this regard.
There have to be a few of you who popped yer
youngins outside a hospital. Especially the
guys
who are joe smith fans. 3 times out i think we
are the ones in charge.
On May 9, 2017 3:59 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
I hope you know the source of the
infection...if not...awkward... Conrats!
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:41 PM Darren Shea
<darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:
Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t
quite register until I re-read
everything you’d typed in this
thread -
clever! Congratulations!____
____
*From:*Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
*On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall
maintenance____
____
Hers the initial diagnostic output____
____
On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:____
There is only one infected device. The
malicious code that is replicating is
directly attached to the command and
control node. I know a lot of people
would simply CleanSweep, but we just
don't feel that is an appropriate
step.
There may be an IOT baby monitor that
gets swept up in all this before its
over in December. ____
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM, David
Milholen <dmilho...@wletc.com>
wrote:____
As any virus running on a network
it has
a pattern weather it be dormant on the
network at times or not. ____
Identify the pattern and where it is
trying to phone home to and isolate it
from phoning home. Then Clean sweep
the
machines you have control of.____
The worst part of any of this is that
IOT devices IE(ip cameras,dvrs,
tempature monitors and others) are the
real threat as they have weak basic
code
that is open to the network.____
Isolation will be your best bet. This
will prevent DDOS attacks on one front
but doesnt stop new viruses from
entering.____
____
____
On 5/8/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Jones
wrote:____
an addendum to this, there are two
primay variants to the payload.
One
tends to be much more
aggressive, a
much more roughly defined code,
not
all that pretty, but ultimately
very
versatile and robust. The other is
normally more elegant in
design, but
it tends to be visciously
malicious,
this is the one to be most
concerned
of. Its underlying code has
started
wars and destroyed nations____
____
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM,
Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:____
So this weekend I discovered a
Trojan virus on my network.
Sometime around January we had
opted to remove an old
firewall
that had met its product life
cycles end. We were still
in the
process of deciding whether to
continue with temporary
firewalls or look toward more
robust input/output chain
policies for a hardened, more
permanent solution. In the
mean
time, of course, we
continued to
do the upload/download
thing. We
had some suspicion that there
was something going on, we
noted
alot of broadcast storms,
particularly in the mornings.
The network had become
particularly sluggish and
there
seemed to be alot of
application
bloat, initially i just
attributed this to poor code
maintenance resulting in a
memory leak.____
We did a basic Netstat this
weekend and discovered a
traffic
anomaly. So we went to a
professional and had them
run a
packet sniffer. We had
verification of foreign code,
likely for as long as 6-8
weeks.____
It will be layer 3 in this
case
but its too early to tell
whether this codes payload
will
be TCP or UDP, we will be
monitoring as the code
replicates. This is a pretty
common virus, as a matter of
fact we have all had it at one
point, probably so long ago we
dont even remember. We
anticipate The fully formed
packet chain to leave NAT mode
and be fully routed out to the
WAN in December.____
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