I am glad I don't share your outlook..yes there will be shams,looting and
criminal activity but the helping your neighbor, regardless of color,race
or religion , movement has been and will continue to be greater.  Call me a
liberal, hippie or whatever...I believe in the goodness of man.  I would
never call a friend's mom a bitch.. Mother's are sacred..

Jaime Solorza

On Aug 31, 2017 9:42 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is so much shady business going on down there already, its a
> freaking shame. My friends mom we are figuring croaked out in corpus chisty
> (sp) at this point, and thats one of thousands of missing folks. And
> trashbags are pulling shams, and we dont even know if we can trust the damn
> red cross. That old bitch was a nice broad when she lived here. And half
> these people offering help will pocket a persons last dime to make people
> have a false sense that there is a chance. Just send a little cash.
>
> On Aug 31, 2017 10:33 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It was my wife's employer, Kool Smiles offices that participated in
>> drive.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2017 9:30 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have an in on convoys you should set up a pickup address for some
>>> wisp deliveries. Other than the norm like red cross, there are so many
>>> places to donate, some even going to PACs people who want loot sent in dont
>>> have any reliable option (i state this cause i found out i sent 20 to a pac
>>> by mistake) 20 is not even a raindrop in a lake, but when you find out its
>>> going to a pac instead of people it pisses you off
>>>
>>> On Aug 31, 2017 9:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Water is scarce down there ..my wife and I provided 20 cases (40
>>> bottles) to a supply convoy heading out tonight.  We are going to send
>>> clothes on Saturday..Fort Bliss soldiers and several law enforcement
>>> officers are en route.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Aug 31, 2017 8:43 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A company sent me an email for IT support work in Houston for Home
>>>> Depots, Dollar Store and others.. i have work here and in Lubbock next
>>>> three weeks...but I asked for SCOW and timeline, plus pay scale..they are
>>>> covering travel and expenses.  Plus I have support contract with GPS and
>>>> Arcticcom so a long stay in Houston area would be tough.
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 31, 2017 8:37 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Was at a contract customer today, hes a truck managemnet and delivery
>>>>> outfit, not sure what its called, but he basically is who they call when
>>>>> they have stuff to go from a to b, and he arranges the truck... sombody
>>>>> please tell me what thats called, ive been going there for ten years and
>>>>> now feel too dumb to ask what its called.
>>>>> He was trying to set up a run into houston and couldnt get hold of
>>>>> anybody, was to the point of googling the shipper recipient to find a
>>>>> contact or cell number, crazy.
>>>>> I said "youll be making bank off this when the rebuild starys i bet"
>>>>> He said no, after katrina and sandy it was virtually impossible to
>>>>> find non contract trucks, cause the standard truck reaponse is "will you
>>>>> match what fema pays?"
>>>>> Its all a racket
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017 9:28 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can put red in on the generator at the shop to charge it. If the
>>>>> generator is in the trunk charging as you drive you cant use it...... road
>>>>> tax.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017 9:00 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not advocating this, but why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Electric cars don't pay anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I put a diesel generator into a Chevy Volt, I can use red diesel.
>>>>>> Well, I assume. Why can't I put red diesel into...  sorry, most hybrids 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> engage the combustion motor for movement....  a factory version of a Volt
>>>>>> with a diesel?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know one is legal and one is not, but they're basically the same
>>>>>> thing, just one comes with the generator and the other doesn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From: *"Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com>
>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:51:28 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over
>>>>>> gas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As long as you keep it off-road!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/31/17 6:34 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>> > If an electric car pays no fuel tax, can a hybrid diesel-electric
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> > red diesel?  :-)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -----
>>>>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>>>>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>>>>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com
>>>>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>> > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>> > *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:15:16 PM
>>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over
>>>>>> gas
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Generator gas is offroad, you folks buying generator gas surely
>>>>>> arent
>>>>>> > paying road tax.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Aug 31, 2017 8:11 PM, "Richard Strittmatter" <rich...@mesh.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:rich...@mesh.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Funny you say that about the tank.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     We just had to “borrow” some diesel from one of our extra tanks
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >     our colo genset, to get one of our guys to the next station
>>>>>> that had
>>>>>> >     diesel.. ____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     It was over 20+ miles away, and his 2500 was past E.. We had to
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> >     around to see who had fuel for him.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     It’s pretty crazy here in DFW, most of the stations here have
>>>>>> 0.00
>>>>>> >     on their signs denoting that they have no gas.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     People lined up all down the access roads for fuel for the
>>>>>> stations
>>>>>> >     that do.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     All mine stay pretty full, but I’ve always done that.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     I personally think the media should be ashamed of the panic
>>>>>> they set
>>>>>> >     off, but it’s all about what gets people pumped up, to them.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     My wife works for a municipality, and their officers spent a
>>>>>> fair
>>>>>> >     amount of time at gas stations today. They are short handed
>>>>>> already,
>>>>>> >       because____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     they have sent a contingent down to Houston. ____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Richard Strittmatter____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>> >     <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
>>>>>> >     *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 3:52 PM
>>>>>> >     *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> >     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> >     gas____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     I have an 8000 gallon tank of diesel at my shop. Hope I don't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> >     to refill it before the prices come back down.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:43 PM Steve Jones
>>>>>> >     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> >     wrote:____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         Its much less awful than initial estimates. They had said we
>>>>>> >         would be down to just over 50% refining capacity, as it
>>>>>> stands
>>>>>> >         we are still in the mid to high 70s, and as I understand it
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> >         one refinery is slated to be offline for an extended
>>>>>> time.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         Its best to just get 20 or 30 gallons in reserve cans in the
>>>>>> >         garage, more if you have the capacity. It shouldnt be
>>>>>> impactful,
>>>>>> >         but we are coming up on the labor day price hike, in
>>>>>> conjunction
>>>>>> >         with this, theres going to be some gouging attempts, but its
>>>>>> >         been made federally clear that gouging wont be
>>>>>> tolerated.____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Cameron Crum <
>>>>>> cc...@wispmon.com
>>>>>> >         <mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         So a news report came out claiming that the gas stations
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >         soon run out of gas because the refineries are all shut
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>> >         So, guess what started happening in Fort Worth, a run on
>>>>>> gas. I
>>>>>> >         went to fill up my wife's car last night as it was running
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> >         about 1/8 tank and all the pumps were busy. I thought that
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> >         strange at 10pm. This morning, the local 7-11 where I make a
>>>>>> >         morning stop had 4 deep at each pump. At lunch, every gas
>>>>>> >         station I passed was the same. My truck was on E so I had to
>>>>>> >         wait. I went home, emptied all my gas cans into my project
>>>>>> >         truck, and went back and got in line. For the most part
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> >         were being courteous, but when I got out of my truck, a guy
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >         black BMW and a woman in red sedan were going at it over
>>>>>> who was
>>>>>> >         supposed to get the pump next at the pump in front of mine.
>>>>>> She
>>>>>> >         was threatening to back into his car so he called the cops.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> >         truck in front of him pulled out so he got a pump and she
>>>>>> got a
>>>>>> >         pump in less than 30 seconds of arguing. He told her he had
>>>>>> >         called the cops, so she then called the cops and claimed
>>>>>> the guy
>>>>>> >         accosted her, making it a priority call so they showed up
>>>>>> quick.
>>>>>> >         He pumped his gas and left and she waited for the cops. The
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> >         on the cops face said it all, "why the f*ck am I dealing
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >         this woman with everything that is going on?" Fort Worth
>>>>>> sent
>>>>>> >         100 offices down to Houston so they are short staffed right
>>>>>> now,
>>>>>> >         and an argument at the gas pump is not a high priority.
>>>>>> Anyway,
>>>>>> >         just a heads up as to what might be coming to the rest of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >         country soon. Most of the gas is refined down this way, so
>>>>>> >         unless things get better fast, there could be shortages in
>>>>>> a lot
>>>>>> >         of places. ____
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         __ __
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>

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