Yeah....people really don't know about AK but of course a storm this size
could hit and nobody would know it either. ;)


On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Former Alaskan here:
> Take care, little Texas. We're rooting for you!
>
> On Sep 1, 2017 8:23 AM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>
> The gas thing is nuts. Lines at the gas stations into the night around
> here. The size of the storm and affected area was huge, bigger than a lot
> of north eastern states or even a couple combined. I don't think people
> realize just how big Texas really is unless they have spent time here. I
> really don't think a lot of people outside of TX have a grasp on the scale
> of this thing. And, yes there are some crooks, but the vast majority of
> people heading that way are going to help. I saw ad's for people looking to
> buy boats and jet skis just so they could go help. Guys in by 4x4 clubs
> with lifted trucks were submitting air intake heights to see if their
> vehicles would pass the high water so they could go help. It's pretty
> amazing how many people are putting in an effort. Our office is being used
> to stock supplies of all kinds as my Ops Mgr's son and friends are heading
> down to Aransas Co next week. Keep in mind, it is a 5 hr drive at highway
> speeds in light traffic for me to get to Houston from where I live in Fort
> Worth, 7hrs to Corpus, 10 hrs to Brownsville (when the roads are open and
> clear). It's not exactly down the road.
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> How about you just haul the generator in the trunk.  Then pull off road
>> if  you want to start and charge...
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:28 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over gas
>>
>> You can put red in on the generator at the shop to charge it. If the
>> generator is in the trunk charging as you drive you cant use it...... road
>> tax.
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2017 9:00 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not advocating this, but why?
>>>
>>> Electric cars don't pay anything.
>>>
>>> If I put a diesel generator into a Chevy Volt, I can use red diesel.
>>> Well, I assume. Why can't I put red diesel into...  sorry, most hybrids can
>>> engage the combustion motor for movement....  a factory version of a Volt
>>> with a diesel?
>>>
>>> I know one is legal and one is not, but they're basically the same
>>> thing, just one comes with the generator and the other doesn't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:51:28 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over gas
>>>
>>> As long as you keep it off-road!
>>>
>>> On 8/31/17 6:34 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> > If an electric car pays no fuel tax, can a hybrid diesel-electric use
>>> > red diesel?  :-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----
>>> > Mike Hammett
>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com
>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------
>>> > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> > *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> > *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:15:16 PM
>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over gas
>>> >
>>> > Generator gas is offroad, you folks buying generator gas surely arent
>>> > paying road tax.
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 31, 2017 8:11 PM, "Richard Strittmatter" <rich...@mesh.net
>>> > <mailto:rich...@mesh.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Funny you say that about the tank.____
>>> >
>>> >     __ __
>>> >
>>> >     We just had to “borrow” some diesel from one of our extra tanks to
>>> >     our colo genset, to get one of our guys to the next station that
>>> had
>>> >     diesel.. ____
>>> >
>>> >     It was over 20+ miles away, and his 2500 was past E.. We had to
>>> call
>>> >     around to see who had fuel for him.____
>>> >
>>> >     __ __
>>> >
>>> >     It’s pretty crazy here in DFW, most of the stations here have 0.00
>>> >     on their signs denoting that they have no gas.____
>>> >
>>> >     People lined up all down the access roads for fuel for the stations
>>> >     that do.____
>>> >
>>> >     All mine stay pretty full, but I’ve always done that.____
>>> >
>>> >     __ __
>>> >
>>> >     I personally think the media should be ashamed of the panic they
>>> set
>>> >     off, but it’s all about what gets people pumped up, to them.____
>>> >
>>> >     My wife works for a municipality, and their officers spent a fair
>>> >     amount of time at gas stations today. They are short handed
>>> already,
>>> >       because____
>>> >
>>> >     they have sent a contingent down to Houston. ____
>>> >
>>> >     __ __
>>> >
>>> >     Richard Strittmatter____
>>> >
>>> >     __ __
>>> >
>>> >     *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> >     <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
>>> >     *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 3:52 PM
>>> >     *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> >     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over
>>> >     gas____
>>> >
>>> >     __ __
>>> >
>>> >     I have an 8000 gallon tank of diesel at my shop. Hope I don't have
>>> >     to refill it before the prices come back down.____
>>> >
>>> >     __ __
>>> >
>>> >     On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:43 PM Steve Jones
>>> >     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
>>> >     wrote:____
>>> >
>>> >         Its much less awful than initial estimates. They had said we
>>> >         would be down to just over 50% refining capacity, as it stands
>>> >         we are still in the mid to high 70s, and as I understand it
>>> only
>>> >         one refinery is slated to be offline for an extended time.____
>>> >
>>> >         __ __
>>> >
>>> >         Its best to just get 20 or 30 gallons in reserve cans in the
>>> >         garage, more if you have the capacity. It shouldnt be
>>> impactful,
>>> >         but we are coming up on the labor day price hike, in
>>> conjunction
>>> >         with this, theres going to be some gouging attempts, but its
>>> >         been made federally clear that gouging wont be tolerated.____
>>> >
>>> >         __ __
>>> >
>>> >         __ __
>>> >
>>> >         __ __
>>> >
>>> >         On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Cameron Crum <
>>> cc...@wispmon.com
>>> >         <mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:____
>>> >
>>> >         So a news report came out claiming that the gas stations would
>>> >         soon run out of gas because the refineries are all shut down.
>>> >         So, guess what started happening in Fort Worth, a run on gas. I
>>> >         went to fill up my wife's car last night as it was running on
>>> >         about 1/8 tank and all the pumps were busy. I thought that was
>>> >         strange at 10pm. This morning, the local 7-11 where I make a
>>> >         morning stop had 4 deep at each pump. At lunch, every gas
>>> >         station I passed was the same. My truck was on E so I had to
>>> >         wait. I went home, emptied all my gas cans into my project
>>> >         truck, and went back and got in line. For the most part people
>>> >         were being courteous, but when I got out of my truck, a guy in
>>> a
>>> >         black BMW and a woman in red sedan were going at it over who
>>> was
>>> >         supposed to get the pump next at the pump in front of mine. She
>>> >         was threatening to back into his car so he called the cops. The
>>> >         truck in front of him pulled out so he got a pump and she got a
>>> >         pump in less than 30 seconds of arguing. He told her he had
>>> >         called the cops, so she then called the cops and claimed the
>>> guy
>>> >         accosted her, making it a priority call so they showed up
>>> quick.
>>> >         He pumped his gas and left and she waited for the cops. The
>>> look
>>> >         on the cops face said it all, "why the f*ck am I dealing with
>>> >         this woman with everything that is going on?" Fort Worth sent
>>> >         100 offices down to Houston so they are short staffed right
>>> now,
>>> >         and an argument at the gas pump is not a high priority. Anyway,
>>> >         just a heads up as to what might be coming to the rest of the
>>> >         country soon. Most of the gas is refined down this way, so
>>> >         unless things get better fast, there could be shortages in a
>>> lot
>>> >         of places. ____
>>> >
>>> >         __ __
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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