What I'm thinking here... don't charge the end users. Get good IP traffic accounting and charge the upstream content providers for carrying THEIR sourced traffic. Don't penalize the end users. ;-)
(My $0.02, can I have my change back now?) On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:21 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote: > One of our tech support guys asked me yesterday if we're going to start > charging for access to Facebook, Netflix, etc. I was just like, dude, > seriously? Yeah, cuz that will surely get us customers. He said, but now we > can, so why wouldn't we? I said, but did we before NN? And then I realized > he was just trying to annoy me. Same shit the media is doing. FUD dbag > tactics. IT'S A TRAP! > > On 12/15/2017 2:59 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Exactly. I literally see people suggesting that ISP's will charge for > access to Facebook or charge for access to Netflix. Not. Going. To. Happen. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > To: "af" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 12/15/2017 3:57:00 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment > > Yeah, true, there were ways to legally do it before if you really wanted > to. Bbut more to the point, nobody is going to do something like that > anyway, because there's no way that it would be worth the customer backlash > they'd have to deal with. > > Nah, nobody is going to have the sense to feel silly about it... they'll > just keep whining for awhile, and then forget about it. Or else, they'll > find something that's completely unrelated that they don't like and blame > it on the lack of NN. > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You would have to justify that as "reasonable network management". They >> defined reasonable network management as being driven by technical reasons >> rather than business reasons (paraphrased). Not disagreeing with you, just >> clarifying. >> >> The bigger loophole I saw was that transit providers were excluded from >> all the rules. >> Put an AS in between you and your upstream who just does filtering for >> you. They're a transit provider so they have no NN rules. >> >> It was very frustrating to witness all the crazy theories about what >> would happen. I wonder if anyone will have the sense to feel silly about >> pontificating on Facebook when absolutely nothing changes. >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: 12/15/2017 3:43:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment >> >> NN did not disallow you to block facebook, just have to disclose it. J >> So it really did’ent do anything. >> >> >> >> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant * >> >> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant >> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> – >> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE >> >> >> >> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net >> >> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com >> >> Office: 314-735-0270 <%28314%29%20735-0270> >> >> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 3:24 PM >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment >> >> >> >> Awesome! I think I'll go block Facebook, and see how that goes... >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/12/15/net_neutr >> ality_s_end_was_mostly_celebrated_by_the_far_right.html >> >> >> >> Apparently now we ISPs can lawfully block individual sites and will do so >> with impunity. >> >> >> >> These people with these petty ideas I dont think understand how poorly >> granularity scales. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I like this as well. I was thinking it would be a good idea to put out a >> statement.. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >> Yep, that is concise and effective >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini >> *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 7:57 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Our NN statment >> >> >> >> What do you guys think? Lots of customers calling! >> >> >> >> Aeronet Statement on Net Neutrality >> >> >> >> AeroNet, a ISP that provides advanced Internet services to Business and >> individuals in PR, USVI and Miami, applauds any action taken that promotes >> innovation and advancement of connectivity for all consumers. In Aeronet’s >> 17 years of history, our pricing structure has always been simple, >> unlimited and without any toll gates. The placement and removal of Net >> Neutrality rules have not and will not modify our pricing policy. We >> maintain our commitment to provide the fastest and most reliable service to >> our customers, with innovative solutions that fulfill our customers needs. >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> >> President >> >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
