You mean like this:
http://www.netcompetition.org/congress/the-multi-billion-dollar-impact-of-fcc-title-ii-broadband-for-google-entire-internet-ecosystem
Mark
On 12/16/17 9:00 AM, Ron M. wrote:
What I'm thinking here... don't charge the end users. Get good IP
traffic accounting and charge the upstream content providers for
carrying THEIR sourced traffic. Don't penalize the end users. ;-)
(My $0.02, can I have my change back now?)
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:21 PM, George Skorup
<george.sko...@cbcast.com <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
One of our tech support guys asked me yesterday if we're going to
start charging for access to Facebook, Netflix, etc. I was just
like, dude, seriously? Yeah, cuz that will surely get us
customers. He said, but now we can, so why wouldn't we? I said,
but did we before NN? And then I realized he was just trying to
annoy me. Same shit the media is doing. FUD dbag tactics. IT'S A TRAP!
On 12/15/2017 2:59 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Exactly. I literally see people suggesting that ISP's will
charge for access to Facebook or charge for access to Netflix.
Not. Going. To. Happen.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 12/15/2017 3:57:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment
Yeah, true, there were ways to legally do it before if you
really wanted to. Bbut more to the point, nobody is going to do
something like that anyway, because there's no way that it would
be worth the customer backlash they'd have to deal with.
Nah, nobody is going to have the sense to feel silly about it...
they'll just keep whining for awhile, and then forget about it.
Or else, they'll find something that's completely unrelated that
they don't like and blame it on the lack of NN.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You would have to justify that as "reasonable network
management". They defined reasonable network management as
being driven by technical reasons rather than business
reasons (paraphrased). Not disagreeing with you, just
clarifying.
The bigger loophole I saw was that transit providers were
excluded from all the rules.
Put an AS in between you and your upstream who just does
filtering for you. They're a transit provider so they have
no NN rules.
It was very frustrating to witness all the crazy theories
about what would happen. I wonder if anyone will have the
sense to feel silly about pontificating on Facebook when
absolutely nothing changes.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net
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To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 12/15/2017 3:43:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment
NN did not disallow you to block facebook, just have to
disclose it. JSo it really did’ent do anything.
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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 3:24 PM
*To:* af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment
Awesome! I think I'll go block Facebook, and see how that
goes...
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/12/15/net_neutrality_s_end_was_mostly_celebrated_by_the_far_right.html
<http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/12/15/net_neutrality_s_end_was_mostly_celebrated_by_the_far_right.html>
Apparently now we ISPs can lawfully block individual
sites and will do so with impunity.
These people with these petty ideas I dont think
understand how poorly granularity scales.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Josh Baird
<joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I like this as well. I was thinking it would be a
good idea to put out a statement..
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Paul McCall
<pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Yep, that is concise and effective
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of
*Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 7:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Our NN statment
What do you guys think? Lots of customers calling!
Aeronet Statement on Net Neutrality
AeroNet, a ISP that provides advanced Internet
services to Business and individuals in PR,
USVI and Miami, applauds any action taken that
promotes innovation and advancement of
connectivity for all consumers. In Aeronet’s
17 years of history, our pricing structure has
always been simple, unlimited and without any
toll gates. The placement and removal of Net
Neutrality rules have not and will not modify
our pricing policy. We maintain our commitment
to provide the fastest and most reliable
service to our customers, with innovative
solutions that fulfill our customers needs.
/*Gino A. Villarini*/
President
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Puerto Rico 00968
