What does SDR vs DRP mean for the meanwells?
On 01/29/2018 09:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt
SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that
This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating ubnt
sectors too)
4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48
4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24
Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort
1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or Mimosa)
RB1100AHX2 (AC power)
HP 1810 24g switch (AC power)
APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card
This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites
4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v
4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v
4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v
2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS
2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon)
3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS
1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS
1x PTP 650/Cambium PS
1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS
1x RB1100AHX2/AC power
1x HP 1810g 24/AC power
APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card
the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the battery budget
Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded power
supplies too.
I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power supplies.
Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified 450m but may
soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which will add
substantial demand
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron
<david.coud...@advantenon.com <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what Steve is
asking for:____
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Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source: $84____
Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37____
Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131____
24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime looking for____
Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is really the only
expensive component)____
Heater: $65____
Fan: $14____
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With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, we figure
we have several hours to get a generator to the site if power isn’t
coming back. We run all POE from the Netonix, it works really
well. Here are the other things we can do with the box:____
1. Monitor temp in the cabinet____
2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP DIN____
3. Monitor voltage of the batteries____
4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix____
5. Monitor Current to the Netonix____
6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries____
7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees____
8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees____
9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN____
10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the Netonix____
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We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet. Usually a Hex POE
(for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.____
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We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 more right
now. While it might be a little more than what you were thinking,
it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment per site.
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Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this with the Monitor
Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if you are interested in
pictures. For this second batch we have started using Terminal
blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little better,
but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a little
tight.____
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Regards,____
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David Coudron____
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*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
*Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
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You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix. If I had to
do it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we did our design, the
idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our A and B
sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the netonix
switches run on.____
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I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all buy them
all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire btw.____
On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:____
A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the 26 port version
is $600.____
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On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini
<g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:____
Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed (isolated dc)…____
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*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh Baird
<joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
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Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or are you using an
isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V rectifier and
Netonix?____
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On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini
<g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:____
Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf off Ebay
~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done. You can
power 90% of WISP gear ____
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*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
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<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
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Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more
know small wisp budget interested in looking at our gear
and power setup and giving realistic advice that doesnt
have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with
a full time linux guy and a full time coder? ____
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Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart,
but i do have some advisory busget.____
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Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto
runtimes on batteries coupled with having to accept we
are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs die.....
please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the
facebook groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or
ubnt forum.____
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