just saw this, informative
https://www.meanwellaustralia.com.au/news/top-8-faqs-about-din-rail-power-supplies

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:

> What does SDR vs DRP mean for the meanwells?
>
>
> On 01/29/2018 09:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
>> That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt
>>
>> SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that
>>
>> This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating ubnt
>> sectors too)
>> 4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48
>> 4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24
>> Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort
>> 1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or Mimosa)
>> RB1100AHX2 (AC power)
>> HP 1810 24g switch (AC power)
>>
>> APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites
>>
>> 4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v
>> 4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v
>> 4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v
>> 2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS
>> 2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon)
>> 3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS
>> 1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS
>> 1x PTP 650/Cambium PS
>> 1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS
>> 1x RB1100AHX2/AC power
>> 1x HP 1810g 24/AC power
>>
>> APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card
>>
>>
>> the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the battery budget
>>
>>
>> Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded power
>> supplies too.
>>
>> I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power supplies.
>>
>> Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified 450m but may
>> soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which will add substantial
>> demand
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron <
>> david.coud...@advantenon.com <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what Steve is
>>     asking for:____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source:  $84____
>>
>>     Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS:  $37____
>>
>>     Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2:  $131____
>>
>>     24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime looking
>> for____
>>
>>     Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch:   $250-350  (This is really the only
>>     expensive component)____
>>
>>     Heater:   $65____
>>
>>     Fan:  $14____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, we figure
>>     we have several hours to get a generator to the site if power isn’t
>>     coming back.   We run all POE from the Netonix, it works really
>>     well.   Here are the other things we can do with the box:____
>>
>>      1. Monitor temp in the cabinet____
>>      2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP DIN____
>>      3. Monitor voltage of the batteries____
>>      4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix____
>>      5. Monitor Current to the Netonix____
>>      6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries____
>>      7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees____
>>      8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees____
>>      9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN____
>>     10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the Netonix____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet.   Usually a Hex POE
>>     (for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 more right
>>     now.   While it might be a little more than what you were thinking,
>>     it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment per site.
>>     ____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Best part is, no coding necessary.  Doing all this with the Monitor
>>     Web2 settings and/or SNMP.    Let me know if you are interested in
>>     pictures.   For this second batch we have started using Terminal
>>     blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little better,
>>     but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a little
>>     tight.____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Regards,____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     David Coudron____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>     <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM
>>     *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix.  If I had to
>>     do it now I'd go with the IDC switch.  When we did our design, the
>>     idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our A  and B
>>     sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the netonix
>>     switches run on.____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all buy them
>>     all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire btw.____
>>
>>
>>     On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:____
>>
>>         A 12 port version would be nice.  Looks like the 26 port version
>>         is $600.____
>>
>>         __ __
>>
>>         On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini
>>         <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:____
>>
>>             Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed (isolated
>> dc)…____
>>
>>             __ __
>>
>>             *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
>>             <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh Baird
>>             <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
>>             *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
>>             <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>             *Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM
>>             *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
>>             <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>             *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
>>
>>             __ __
>>
>>             Which Netonix are you running at - 48V?  Or are you using an
>>             isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V rectifier and
>>             Netonix?____
>>
>>             __ __
>>
>>             On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini
>>             <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:____
>>
>>                 Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf off Ebay
>>                   ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done. You can
>>                 power 90% of WISP gear ____
>>
>>                 __ __
>>
>>                 *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
>>                 <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Steve Jones
>>                 <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
>>                 *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
>>                 <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>                 *Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM
>>                 *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
>>                 <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>                 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
>>
>>                 __ __
>>
>>                 Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more
>>                 know small wisp budget interested in looking at our gear
>>                 and power setup and giving realistic advice that doesnt
>>                 have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with
>>                 a full time linux guy and a full time coder? ____
>>
>>                 __ __
>>
>>                 Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart,
>>                 but i do have some advisory busget.____
>>
>>                 __ __
>>
>>                 Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto
>>                 runtimes on batteries coupled with having to accept we
>>                 are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs die.....
>>                 please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the
>>                 facebook groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or
>>                 ubnt forum.____
>>
>>             __ __
>>
>>         __ __
>>
>>
>>

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