just saw this, informative https://www.meanwellaustralia.com.au/news/top-8-faqs-about-din-rail-power-supplies
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > What does SDR vs DRP mean for the meanwells? > > > On 01/29/2018 09:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > >> That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt >> >> SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that >> >> This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating ubnt >> sectors too) >> 4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48 >> 4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24 >> Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort >> 1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or Mimosa) >> RB1100AHX2 (AC power) >> HP 1810 24g switch (AC power) >> >> APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card >> >> >> >> >> This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites >> >> 4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v >> 4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v >> 4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v >> 2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS >> 2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon) >> 3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS >> 1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS >> 1x PTP 650/Cambium PS >> 1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS >> 1x RB1100AHX2/AC power >> 1x HP 1810g 24/AC power >> >> APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card >> >> >> the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the battery budget >> >> >> Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded power >> supplies too. >> >> I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power supplies. >> >> Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified 450m but may >> soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which will add substantial >> demand >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron < >> david.coud...@advantenon.com <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what Steve is >> asking for:____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source: $84____ >> >> Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37____ >> >> Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131____ >> >> 24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime looking >> for____ >> >> Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is really the only >> expensive component)____ >> >> Heater: $65____ >> >> Fan: $14____ >> >> __ __ >> >> With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, we figure >> we have several hours to get a generator to the site if power isn’t >> coming back. We run all POE from the Netonix, it works really >> well. Here are the other things we can do with the box:____ >> >> 1. Monitor temp in the cabinet____ >> 2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP DIN____ >> 3. Monitor voltage of the batteries____ >> 4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix____ >> 5. Monitor Current to the Netonix____ >> 6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries____ >> 7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees____ >> 8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees____ >> 9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN____ >> 10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the Netonix____ >> >> __ __ >> >> We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet. Usually a Hex POE >> (for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 more right >> now. While it might be a little more than what you were thinking, >> it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment per site. >> ____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this with the Monitor >> Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if you are interested in >> pictures. For this second batch we have started using Terminal >> blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little better, >> but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a little >> tight.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Regards,____ >> >> __ __ >> >> David Coudron____ >> >> __ __ >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >> >> __ __ >> >> You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix. If I had to >> do it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we did our design, the >> idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our A and B >> sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the netonix >> switches run on.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all buy them >> all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire btw.____ >> >> >> On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com >> <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:____ >> >> A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the 26 port version >> is $600.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini >> <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:____ >> >> Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed (isolated >> dc)…____ >> >> __ __ >> >> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh Baird >> <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> >> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" >> <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> >> *Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM >> *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com >> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or are you using an >> isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V rectifier and >> Netonix?____ >> >> __ __ >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini >> <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:____ >> >> Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf off Ebay >> ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done. You can >> power 90% of WISP gear ____ >> >> __ __ >> >> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Steve Jones >> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> >> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" >> <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> >> *Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM >> *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com >> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more >> know small wisp budget interested in looking at our gear >> and power setup and giving realistic advice that doesnt >> have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with >> a full time linux guy and a full time coder? ____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart, >> but i do have some advisory busget.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto >> runtimes on batteries coupled with having to accept we >> are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs die..... >> please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the >> facebook groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or >> ubnt forum.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> __ __ >> >> >>
