Yeah - but I want to power it directly off a -48VDC rail (like we do
with +48VDC).
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:56 PM, David Coudron
<david.coud...@advantenon.com <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>
wrote:
Yep, it says it will do 15-57V POE in. At least the model we use
does.
David Coudron
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
*Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2018 1:53 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion
Hmm - do you know if the CCR1009 supports -/+48VDC?
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:47 PM, George Skorup
<george.sko...@cbcast.com <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
RackInjector, dude. RackInjector.
And you can swap that 1100AHx2 for an 1100AHx4. The DC input
on the back supports - or + 48.
On 1/29/2018 11:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt
SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that
This is what most of our sites have (theres some
depreciating ubnt sectors too)
4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48
4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24
Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort
1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic:
SAF or Mimosa)
RB1100AHX2 (AC power)
HP 1810 24g switch (AC power)
APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card
This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites
4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v
4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v
4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v
2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS
2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon)
3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS
1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS
1x PTP 650/Cambium PS
1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS
1x RB1100AHX2/AC power
1x HP 1810g 24/AC power
APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card
the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have
the battery budget
Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and
branded power supplies too.
I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power
supplies.
Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent
justified 450m but may soon and we will roll some LTE in
the near term which will add substantial demand
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron
<david.coud...@advantenon.com
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to
what Steve is asking for:
Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source: $84
Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37
Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131
24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the
runtime looking for
Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is
really the only expensive component)
Heater: $65
Fan: $14
With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small
batteries, we figure we have several hours to get a
generator to the site if power isn’t coming back.
We run all POE from the Netonix, it works really
well. Here are the other things we can do with the box:
1. Monitor temp in the cabinet
2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP DIN
3. Monitor voltage of the batteries
4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix
5. Monitor Current to the Netonix
6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries
7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees
8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees
9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN
10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the Netonix
We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet.
Usually a Hex POE (for small sites) or a 3011 for
larger sites.
We have 13 in the field set up like this and are
going 15 more right now. While it might be a little
more than what you were thinking, it gives us a ton
of control for pretty minimal investment per site.
Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this
with the Monitor Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me
know if you are interested in pictures. For this
second batch we have started using Terminal blocks to
clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little
better, but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that
makes things a little tight.
Regards,
David Coudron
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Carl
Peterson
*Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion
You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up
netonix. If I had to do it now I'd go with the IDC
switch. When we did our design, the idc didn't exist
so we just went down to 24V off of our A and B sides
and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the
netonix switches run on.
I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all
y'all buy them all up. These are mostly
decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire btw.
On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird
<joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the
26 port version is $600.
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A.
Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed
(isolated dc)…
*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of
Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion
Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or
are you using an isolated DC/DC converter in
between the -48V rectifier and Netonix?
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A.
Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier
shelf off Ebay ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC
Switch $400… all done. You can power 90%
of WISP gear
*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf
of Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion
Any of you folks who know both dc plant
and even more know small wisp budget
interested in looking at our gear and
power setup and giving realistic advice
that doesnt have a 10 different 500
dollar components combined with a full
time linux guy and a full time coder?
Id love you to do it out of the kindness
of your heart, but i do have some
advisory busget.
Im just tired of the apc ups waste and
super ghetto runtimes on batteries
coupled with having to accept we are
destroying runtimes by letting the apcs
die..... please, somebody, please.
Otherwise i have to go to the facebook
groups, and thats like going to a
mikrotik or ubnt forum.
