they do but it's not direct TCP like I would like (aka dedicated static)
but neat none the less, they have a very cheap monthly rate but they per MB
rate is very high compared to twilio and others

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:51 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But if Hologram has a way to access the device like Lewis says, there's no
> reason to maintain a persistent VPN connection.
>
> On Jan 31, 2018 8:45 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Slightly more expensive, but t-mobile has plans that are $20-25/mo and
> "unlimited" rate limited 128kbps x 128 kbps after that. For a critical site
> $20/mo can be worth it.
>
> $2/mo is not a realistic figure if you're maintaining a persistent VPN
> connection, the $ per MB rate for those sort of plans is actually worse.
> Just the periodic handshakes and keepalives will eat through 20-25MB in a
> month.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
>> Interesting...I didn’t know there were plans for $2/mo.  That definitely
>> makes it worthwhile to have a backdoor LTE connection to towers.
>>
>> I’ll have to check into that
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:30 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Never, but it's not a bad idea to have out of band management? I can get
>>> the LTE service for $2 a month + data used (ssh data = zero)
>>>
>>> TJ
>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Um how often are you loosing contact with your sites to necessitate
>>>> this LTE backdoor?
>>>>
>>>> Seems like a lot of overkill to make routing changes???
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>> -sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:48 AM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Does anyone want to trade a PPTP connection (prefer you are multihomed)
>>>>> for the purpose of getting through LTE NAT? AKA I assign you a PPTP 
>>>>> account
>>>>> with a static IPV4 and you do the same, so that if either of our networks
>>>>> go down we can use the others to tunnel back thru LTE to preform OOBM
>>>>> functions? We can shape @ 1mbps?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a simple was around paying high fees for a static IP from the
>>>>> wireless carriers that even offer it...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really want to subscribe to some russian vpn service if I
>>>>> don't have to, or pay some cloud based OOBM company which will both cost
>>>>> way big$$$
>>>>>
>>>>> TJ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can use PPTP through NAT on LTE.  You can assign a static private
>>>>>> IP to both ends of that tunnel.
>>>>>> If PPTP won't pass something you need, you can run an EoIP tunnel
>>>>>> using the PPTP IP's as the endpoints of the EoIP tunnel.  You end up 
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> tunnel inside of a tunnel.  It'll have a lowish real MTU, but you can 
>>>>>> pass
>>>>>> 1500 bytes within the EoIP tunnel and it'll just be fragmented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: 1/31/2018 12:51:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wanting to add out of band management via LTE to some of our
>>>>>> core routers, but I think most/all cellular networks are NAT now so you
>>>>>> cannot access your LTE devices inbound unless you have it tunnel out to a
>>>>>> public ip over VPN somewhere right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is everyone handling OOBE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm half tempted to do it via VHF low throughput radios!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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