But if Hologram has a way to access the device like Lewis says, there's no
reason to maintain a persistent VPN connection.

On Jan 31, 2018 8:45 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Slightly more expensive, but t-mobile has plans that are $20-25/mo and
"unlimited" rate limited 128kbps x 128 kbps after that. For a critical site
$20/mo can be worth it.

$2/mo is not a realistic figure if you're maintaining a persistent VPN
connection, the $ per MB rate for those sort of plans is actually worse.
Just the periodic handshakes and keepalives will eat through 20-25MB in a
month.





On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

> Interesting...I didn’t know there were plans for $2/mo.  That definitely
> makes it worthwhile to have a backdoor LTE connection to towers.
>
> I’ll have to check into that
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:30 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>
>> Never, but it's not a bad idea to have out of band management? I can get
>> the LTE service for $2 a month + data used (ssh data = zero)
>>
>> TJ
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Um how often are you loosing contact with your sites to necessitate this
>>> LTE backdoor?
>>>
>>> Seems like a lot of overkill to make routing changes???
>>>
>>> Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> -sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:48 AM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Does anyone want to trade a PPTP connection (prefer you are multihomed)
>>>> for the purpose of getting through LTE NAT? AKA I assign you a PPTP account
>>>> with a static IPV4 and you do the same, so that if either of our networks
>>>> go down we can use the others to tunnel back thru LTE to preform OOBM
>>>> functions? We can shape @ 1mbps?
>>>>
>>>> This is a simple was around paying high fees for a static IP from the
>>>> wireless carriers that even offer it...
>>>>
>>>> I don't really want to subscribe to some russian vpn service if I don't
>>>> have to, or pay some cloud based OOBM company which will both cost way
>>>> big$$$
>>>>
>>>> TJ
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can use PPTP through NAT on LTE.  You can assign a static private
>>>>> IP to both ends of that tunnel.
>>>>> If PPTP won't pass something you need, you can run an EoIP tunnel
>>>>> using the PPTP IP's as the endpoints of the EoIP tunnel.  You end up with 
>>>>> a
>>>>> tunnel inside of a tunnel.  It'll have a lowish real MTU, but you can pass
>>>>> 1500 bytes within the EoIP tunnel and it'll just be fragmented.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Sent: 1/31/2018 12:51:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wanting to add out of band management via LTE to some of our
>>>>> core routers, but I think most/all cellular networks are NAT now so you
>>>>> cannot access your LTE devices inbound unless you have it tunnel out to a
>>>>> public ip over VPN somewhere right?
>>>>>
>>>>> How is everyone handling OOBE?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm half tempted to do it via VHF low throughput radios!
>>>>>
>>>>> TJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

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