It would make it even easier for me when people come over from Hughes Net. Right now I just use their coax as a cable pull.
Jon Lee Off-Grid Networks On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: > Like i said, it was a stupid idea. I'm all on board the fiber train, but > having had some rodent just eat through the fiber cable going to the top > (on the tower side of the service loop), I was longing for something that I > could just patch back together. > > > On 3/29/2018 1:48 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > For once I agree with Mike, lol, I think Teletronics had a coax to > Ethernet cabling solution catered to hotels and hospitals. Long ago. > > Jaime Solorza > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018, 11:37 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> If we're changing methods, we should be going to glass and power up the >> tower and not use anything conductive for data. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> >> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Thursday, March 29, 2018 10:47:37 AM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] A Stupid coax question >> >> Comcast has been deploying their WIFI hotspot network like mad in the >> Chicago metro. Every public park, gas station, strip mall, hotel, and >> train station seems to have a wifi AP hung outside of it now. These >> units just hang on their aerial coax cable, and get their power and data >> just off a single RG-6 coax run off the nearest splitter. Drawing the >> power off the DC Coax plant. Here's a picture of a typical >> installation. >> http://comcastsupport.i.lithium.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/ >> 22608i79AFB9E182CD549C?v=1.0 >> >> So this got me thinking again, as I have for several years, why are we >> still using POE to run PMP Equipment on towers. It seems from a >> installation, RF Shielding, and grounding/suppression perspective, using >> coax would be the far better choice. Anyone can be taught to terminate >> a perfect RG6 in <5 minutes. No Colors to remember. Any couplers are >> inherently waterproof. No loose plugs or broken clips. Cheap cheap >> cheap outdoor cable. Shielded cables by default. It just seems that >> there are a lot of benefits for the low power draw radios. Obviously a >> licensed link can't pull enough power over an RG6, but EPMP or 450 or >> UBNT PMP radios I would think could run just fine. Instead of having to >> deal with switching equipment or breakout boxes at the top of a tower, >> just run up a larger coax to a splitter. No outdoor enclosure needed. >> >> Is it simply a lack of products that would make development costs too >> much, or is there another technical aspect I'm missing. Docsis version >> 3.1 Full Duplex, which is currently in development will do 10gb sync, >> Docsis 3.1 is 10gb/1gb. More than enough for any of our AP Clusters for >> at least a few years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Comparison >> It seems like UBNT or Cambium (heck Motorola already had all the coax >> products built) could easily make a 10gb Fiber to Coax adapter for the >> tower base. Feed it with Fiber and DC, then just keep adding splitters >> and radios until you run out of power budget. >> >> It just seems like I've never heard it discussed, and I'm not sure why. >> Obviously there is something I'm missing. Docsis is a standard, but >> maybe there's no standard for the power delivery on the coax? So vendor >> Inter-op prohibits development dollars from being spent on it. >> >> Nate >> >> > -- Jon Lee Off-Grid Networks c.928.793.2972
