It’s just an RF overlay on the fiber plant carrying the video portion.  It’s 
one way toward the customer.    

Mark

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There's a cable operator I know of who is using RFoG.  There's apparently an 
> RFoG ONU they install in/on the house, and then they use the same cable 
> modems and STB's they use with their coax service.
> 
> I imagine it would only make sense if you're wanting to re-use an existing 
> cable head end, but I haven't looked into it deeply.
> 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Jon Lee" <j...@off-gridnetworks.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/29/2018 11:28:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A Stupid coax question
> 
>> It would make it even easier for me when people come over from Hughes Net. 
>> Right now I just use their coax as a cable pull. 
>> 
>> Jon Lee
>> Off-Grid Networks
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>> Like i said, it was a stupid idea.  I'm all on board the fiber train, but 
>>> having had some rodent just eat through the fiber cable going to the top 
>>> (on the tower side of the service loop), I was longing for something that I 
>>> could just patch back together.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3/29/2018 1:48 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>> For once I agree with Mike, lol, I think Teletronics had a coax to 
>>>> Ethernet cabling solution catered to hotels and hospitals.   Long ago.
>>>> 
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018, 11:37 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>> If we're changing methods, we should be going to glass and power up the 
>>>>> tower and not use anything conductive for data.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 10:47:37 AM
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] A Stupid coax question
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comcast has been deploying their WIFI hotspot network like mad in the 
>>>>> Chicago metro.  Every public park, gas station, strip mall, hotel, and 
>>>>> train station seems to have a wifi AP hung outside of it now.  These 
>>>>> units just hang on their aerial coax cable, and get their power and data 
>>>>> just off a single RG-6 coax run off the nearest splitter.  Drawing the 
>>>>> power off the DC Coax plant.  Here's a picture of a typical 
>>>>> installation. 
>>>>> http://comcastsupport.i.lithium.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/22608i79AFB9E182CD549C?v=1.0
>>>>> 
>>>>> So this got me thinking again, as I have for several years, why are we 
>>>>> still using POE to run PMP Equipment on towers.  It seems from a 
>>>>> installation, RF Shielding, and grounding/suppression perspective, using 
>>>>> coax would be the far better choice.  Anyone can be taught to terminate 
>>>>> a perfect RG6 in <5 minutes.  No Colors to remember. Any couplers are 
>>>>> inherently waterproof.  No loose plugs or broken clips.  Cheap cheap 
>>>>> cheap outdoor cable.  Shielded cables by default.  It just seems that 
>>>>> there are a lot of benefits for the low power draw radios.  Obviously a 
>>>>> licensed link can't pull enough power over an RG6, but EPMP or 450 or 
>>>>> UBNT PMP radios I would think could run just fine.  Instead of having to 
>>>>> deal with switching equipment or breakout boxes at the top of a tower, 
>>>>> just run up a larger coax to a splitter.  No outdoor enclosure needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it simply a lack of products that would make development costs too 
>>>>> much, or is there another technical aspect I'm missing.  Docsis version 
>>>>> 3.1 Full Duplex, which is currently in development will do 10gb sync, 
>>>>> Docsis 3.1 is 10gb/1gb.  More than enough for any of our AP Clusters for 
>>>>> at least a few years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Comparison  
>>>>> It seems like UBNT or Cambium (heck Motorola already had all the coax 
>>>>> products built) could easily make a 10gb Fiber to Coax adapter for the 
>>>>> tower base. Feed it with Fiber and DC, then just keep adding splitters 
>>>>> and radios until you run out of power budget.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It just seems like I've never heard it discussed, and I'm not sure why.  
>>>>> Obviously there is something I'm missing.  Docsis is a standard, but 
>>>>> maybe there's no standard for the power delivery on the coax?  So vendor 
>>>>> Inter-op prohibits development dollars from being spent on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nate
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jon Lee
>> Off-Grid Networks
>> c.928.793.2972

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