theres no shortage of criminals

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wish we would treat drugs here like they do in Spain and Portugal, but
> how would our for-profit prison system, police and federal law enforcement
> get money?
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:42 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thats heroin that permantly alters the opoid receptors in the brain, the
>> molecule is slightly larger than the normal brain chemical (dopamine i
>> think) its replacing, so the receptor is enlarged. Its actually that first
>> use that is why doing heroin is called chasing the dragon, people are
>> seeking to replicate that first high but never can because the physiologic
>> change only happens once so its like chasing a dragon
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:18 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That's Fake News.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 2:21 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once,
>>>> permanently
>>>> alters the brain chemistry.  So it's not a 'recreational' drug, and why
>>>> it's so addictive.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>> > Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me.  I like
>>>> > those too much.
>>>> >
>>>> > Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>> >> If I am going to use bath salts, they are called Epsom and they are
>>>> >> dissolved in hot water...
>>>> >> Not really clear what they mean by bath salts.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I was prescribed Xanax once.  Made me sleepy.
>>>> >> Pot was not my thing back in the 70s...
>>>> >> (I preferred Olympia, Blitz, Rainier, Hamms, Miller, Heineken, Henry
>>>> >> Winehards Private Reserve...)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Not really sure what meth does to you but I know it is horribly
>>>> >> addictive and ruins everyone that gets hooked.
>>>> >> I guess it is a version of speed.  But no direct experience with
>>>> that
>>>> >> either.  Not wanting anything that cause my hear to race.
>>>> >> Coke Zero does that enough for me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of horrific surgeries
>>>> >> (decompression of the spine, harrington rods, 14 lag screws into her
>>>> >> vertebrae).
>>>> >> But she didn't get hooked.  Claimed it worked really well.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:08 PM
>>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like
>>>> fun
>>>> >> and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows.  Granted, all I know
>>>> about
>>>> >> bath salts are the videos I've come across.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Steve Jones wrote:
>>>> >>> They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16
>>>> >>> doses od suboxone (essentially heroin) 11.8 grams of bath salts.
>>>> >>> other misch controlled substance pills as well as delivery of meth
>>>> >>> charges.
>>>> >>> fucking bath salts
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dave <[email protected]
>>>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>     I hear the same shit as lewis and the sheriff mentioned that
>>>> Every
>>>> >>>     vehicle that is pulled over has some form of drug or
>>>> paraphernalia
>>>> >>>     in it.
>>>> >>>     Meth is the demon drug that will cause even the most humble
>>>> become
>>>> >>>     demented.
>>>> >>>     A peer of my rank in the army said "That some were just not
>>>> meant
>>>> >>>     to breed!" We laughed about it but I do believe there is some
>>>> >>>     truth to that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>     On 04/15/2018 05:11 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>> >>>>     I think Meth answers all your "why" questions. Since I deal
>>>> with
>>>> >>>>     almost every sheriff in and most every drug focused law
>>>> >>>>     enforcement I hear a lot of their stories. One of them tells me
>>>> >>>>     that 95%+ of crime is drug related. CPS type problems they put
>>>> at
>>>> >>>>     about 80% with the remaining 15% made of of perverts that
>>>> should
>>>> >>>>     probably be castrated upon a verdict.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>     On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 10:03 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]
>>>> >>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>         I had a similar situation.  Rather my wife did.  We took
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>         kids in (her sister�s kids).
>>>> >>>>         Very similar situation, neglected, abused, drugs etc.
>>>> >>>>         One of the parents got them back for a while, then the
>>>> other.
>>>> >>>>         Those kids still think of my wife as �mom�.  They are
>>>> all
>>>> >>>>         grown up with grandkids of their own now.
>>>> >>>>         One of them is a solid cop in Reno. The other has not
>>>> turned
>>>> >>>>         out so well.
>>>> >>>>         The world needs standup guys like you.
>>>> >>>>         *From:* Steve Jones
>>>> >>>>         *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:00 PM
>>>> >>>>         *To:* [email protected]
>>>> >>>>         *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents
>>>> >>>>         You folks get my vent because i cant anywherr else. So
>>>> like 7
>>>> >>>>         years ago we took in my old ladys nephews because, well
>>>> >>>>         fuckwit parents. FYI the foster care system is aweful. We
>>>> >>>>         fostered them for a year and half while her brother and
>>>> baby
>>>> >>>>         momma sorted their shit, or so we thought. The 18 month old
>>>> >>>>         at the time had a club foot, i had to build a sleeping rig
>>>> >>>>         with some shoes with the ankles hooked together and the
>>>> toes
>>>> >>>>         locked outward with a ruler, i worked his legs in and out
>>>> til
>>>> >>>>         his hip popped one night, i thought i broke his hip, but it
>>>> >>>>         was just something going back. The 4 year old you couldbt
>>>> >>>>         understand cause they thought baby talk was cute so they
>>>> >>>>         never taught him to speak. We fixed that, and that was the
>>>> >>>>         least bad of the fuckery. This was me, the old lady,
>>>> >>>>         a1,2,4,and 5 year old with our 2 in a tiny 2 bedroom.
>>>> >>>>         Finally got these boys shaped up and bought a house for
>>>> room,
>>>> >>>>         and a week later they gave them back to the mom. The old
>>>> >>>>         ladies brother never did what he was supposed to.
>>>> >>>>         Now today was their grandmas (my old ladies step moms)
>>>> >>>>         funeral, so whats this trashcan do? Gets arrested for
>>>> selling
>>>> >>>>         fucking meth
>>>> >>>>         So dealing with all that comes with a funeral, we had to be
>>>> >>>>         late dealing with the child services people. Get all that
>>>> >>>>         squared away, get through the funeral and now find out we
>>>> >>>>         also get the joy of headlice.
>>>> >>>>         Seriously, fucking shit fuck. How do people do this shit to
>>>> >>>>         kids, theyre not just a thing you have while doing other
>>>> >>>> things.
>>>> >>>>         Im not lawfully allowed to discuss any of this with anyone
>>>> >>>>         who is remotely involved, i figure none of you are.
>>>> >>>>         But seriously, what the fuck, you get your kids back and
>>>> sell
>>>> >>>>         meth. And theyre already asking if they sign their righys
>>>> if
>>>> >>>>         they can see the kids still.
>>>> >>>>         I have very few skills, and none of rhem involve the
>>>> ability
>>>> >>>>         to not want to feed these people lead
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
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