I like pissing off cartels

I always preferred decriminalization to legalization, maintains a secondary
effective tax to offset the byproduct cost in treatment, etc.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> Decriminalize drugs except in the event of endangering the welfare of a
> child, or risking life/limb of another person.
>
> Drugs are a personal choice. If Jimbo isn't hurting anybody by coming home
> and the end of a day and smoking a joint, or maybe using mushrooms or MDA
> to help overcome emotional trauma, or for religious reasons, who's business
> is that?
>
> Hard drugs are often done to escape inward or to damage onesself or to
> feel something or just... Feel. The root problem is mental health. Let
> people get clean needles in a controlled setting and give them access to
> talk to someone. It's had amazing effects in those mentioned contries.
>
> Oh yeah, it'll right piss off the cartels too.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 9:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> theres no shortage of criminals
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish we would treat drugs here like they do in Spain and Portugal, but
>>> how would our for-profit prison system, police and federal law enforcement
>>> get money?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:42 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thats heroin that permantly alters the opoid receptors in the brain,
>>>> the molecule is slightly larger than the normal brain chemical (dopamine i
>>>> think) its replacing, so the receptor is enlarged. Its actually that first
>>>> use that is why doing heroin is called chasing the dragon, people are
>>>> seeking to replicate that first high but never can because the physiologic
>>>> change only happens once so its like chasing a dragon
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:18 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's Fake News.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 2:21 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once,
>>>>>> permanently
>>>>>> alters the brain chemistry.  So it's not a 'recreational' drug, and
>>>>>> why
>>>>>> it's so addictive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>>>> > Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me.  I
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> > those too much.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>> >> If I am going to use bath salts, they are called Epsom and they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> >> dissolved in hot water...
>>>>>> >> Not really clear what they mean by bath salts.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I was prescribed Xanax once.  Made me sleepy.
>>>>>> >> Pot was not my thing back in the 70s...
>>>>>> >> (I preferred Olympia, Blitz, Rainier, Hamms, Miller, Heineken,
>>>>>> Henry
>>>>>> >> Winehards Private Reserve...)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Not really sure what meth does to you but I know it is horribly
>>>>>> >> addictive and ruins everyone that gets hooked.
>>>>>> >> I guess it is a version of speed.  But no direct experience with
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >> either.  Not wanting anything that cause my hear to race.
>>>>>> >> Coke Zero does that enough for me.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of horrific surgeries
>>>>>> >> (decompression of the spine, harrington rods, 14 lag screws into
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> >> vertebrae).
>>>>>> >> But she didn't get hooked.  Claimed it worked really well.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
>>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:08 PM
>>>>>> >> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound
>>>>>> like fun
>>>>>> >> and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows.  Granted, all I know
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >> bath salts are the videos I've come across.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>> >>> They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16
>>>>>> >>> doses od suboxone (essentially heroin) 11.8 grams of bath salts.
>>>>>> >>> other misch controlled substance pills as well as delivery of
>>>>>> meth
>>>>>> >>> charges.
>>>>>> >>> fucking bath salts
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com
>>>>>> >>> <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     I hear the same shit as lewis and the sheriff mentioned that
>>>>>> Every
>>>>>> >>>     vehicle that is pulled over has some form of drug or
>>>>>> paraphernalia
>>>>>> >>>     in it.
>>>>>> >>>     Meth is the demon drug that will cause even the most humble
>>>>>> become
>>>>>> >>>     demented.
>>>>>> >>>     A peer of my rank in the army said "That some were just not
>>>>>> meant
>>>>>> >>>     to breed!" We laughed about it but I do believe there is some
>>>>>> >>>     truth to that.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     On 04/15/2018 05:11 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>     I think Meth answers all your "why" questions. Since I deal
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >>>>     almost every sheriff in and most every drug focused law
>>>>>> >>>>     enforcement I hear a lot of their stories. One of them tells
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> >>>>     that 95%+ of crime is drug related. CPS type problems they
>>>>>> put at
>>>>>> >>>>     about 80% with the remaining 15% made of of perverts that
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>>     probably be castrated upon a verdict.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>     On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 10:03 AM Chuck McCown <
>>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>>> >>>>     <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>         I had a similar situation.  Rather my wife did.  We took
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>         kids in (her sister�s kids).
>>>>>> >>>>         Very similar situation, neglected, abused, drugs etc.
>>>>>> >>>>         One of the parents got them back for a while, then the
>>>>>> other.
>>>>>> >>>>         Those kids still think of my wife as �mom�.  They
>>>>>> are all
>>>>>> >>>>         grown up with grandkids of their own now.
>>>>>> >>>>         One of them is a solid cop in Reno. The other has not
>>>>>> turned
>>>>>> >>>>         out so well.
>>>>>> >>>>         The world needs standup guys like you.
>>>>>> >>>>         *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>>> >>>>         *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:00 PM
>>>>>> >>>>         *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> >>>>         *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents
>>>>>> >>>>         You folks get my vent because i cant anywherr else. So
>>>>>> like 7
>>>>>> >>>>         years ago we took in my old ladys nephews because, well
>>>>>> >>>>         fuckwit parents. FYI the foster care system is aweful. We
>>>>>> >>>>         fostered them for a year and half while her brother and
>>>>>> baby
>>>>>> >>>>         momma sorted their shit, or so we thought. The 18 month
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> >>>>         at the time had a club foot, i had to build a sleeping
>>>>>> rig
>>>>>> >>>>         with some shoes with the ankles hooked together and the
>>>>>> toes
>>>>>> >>>>         locked outward with a ruler, i worked his legs in and
>>>>>> out til
>>>>>> >>>>         his hip popped one night, i thought i broke his hip, but
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> >>>>         was just something going back. The 4 year old you couldbt
>>>>>> >>>>         understand cause they thought baby talk was cute so they
>>>>>> >>>>         never taught him to speak. We fixed that, and that was
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>         least bad of the fuckery. This was me, the old lady,
>>>>>> >>>>         a1,2,4,and 5 year old with our 2 in a tiny 2 bedroom.
>>>>>> >>>>         Finally got these boys shaped up and bought a house for
>>>>>> room,
>>>>>> >>>>         and a week later they gave them back to the mom. The old
>>>>>> >>>>         ladies brother never did what he was supposed to.
>>>>>> >>>>         Now today was their grandmas (my old ladies step moms)
>>>>>> >>>>         funeral, so whats this trashcan do? Gets arrested for
>>>>>> selling
>>>>>> >>>>         fucking meth
>>>>>> >>>>         So dealing with all that comes with a funeral, we had to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> >>>>         late dealing with the child services people. Get all that
>>>>>> >>>>         squared away, get through the funeral and now find out we
>>>>>> >>>>         also get the joy of headlice.
>>>>>> >>>>         Seriously, fucking shit fuck. How do people do this shit
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >>>>         kids, theyre not just a thing you have while doing other
>>>>>> >>>> things.
>>>>>> >>>>         Im not lawfully allowed to discuss any of this with
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> >>>>         who is remotely involved, i figure none of you are.
>>>>>> >>>>         But seriously, what the fuck, you get your kids back and
>>>>>> sell
>>>>>> >>>>         meth. And theyre already asking if they sign their
>>>>>> righys if
>>>>>> >>>>         they can see the kids still.
>>>>>> >>>>         I have very few skills, and none of rhem involve the
>>>>>> ability
>>>>>> >>>>         to not want to feed these people lead
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
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