I like pissing off cartels I always preferred decriminalization to legalization, maintains a secondary effective tax to offset the byproduct cost in treatment, etc.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > Decriminalize drugs except in the event of endangering the welfare of a > child, or risking life/limb of another person. > > Drugs are a personal choice. If Jimbo isn't hurting anybody by coming home > and the end of a day and smoking a joint, or maybe using mushrooms or MDA > to help overcome emotional trauma, or for religious reasons, who's business > is that? > > Hard drugs are often done to escape inward or to damage onesself or to > feel something or just... Feel. The root problem is mental health. Let > people get clean needles in a controlled setting and give them access to > talk to someone. It's had amazing effects in those mentioned contries. > > Oh yeah, it'll right piss off the cartels too. > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 9:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> theres no shortage of criminals >> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I wish we would treat drugs here like they do in Spain and Portugal, but >>> how would our for-profit prison system, police and federal law enforcement >>> get money? >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:42 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thats heroin that permantly alters the opoid receptors in the brain, >>>> the molecule is slightly larger than the normal brain chemical (dopamine i >>>> think) its replacing, so the receptor is enlarged. Its actually that first >>>> use that is why doing heroin is called chasing the dragon, people are >>>> seeking to replicate that first high but never can because the physiologic >>>> change only happens once so its like chasing a dragon >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:18 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's Fake News. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 2:21 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, >>>>>> permanently >>>>>> alters the brain chemistry. So it's not a 'recreational' drug, and >>>>>> why >>>>>> it's so addictive. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: >>>>>> > Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me. I >>>>>> like >>>>>> > those too much. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>> >> If I am going to use bath salts, they are called Epsom and they >>>>>> are >>>>>> >> dissolved in hot water... >>>>>> >> Not really clear what they mean by bath salts. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I was prescribed Xanax once. Made me sleepy. >>>>>> >> Pot was not my thing back in the 70s... >>>>>> >> (I preferred Olympia, Blitz, Rainier, Hamms, Miller, Heineken, >>>>>> Henry >>>>>> >> Winehards Private Reserve...) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Not really sure what meth does to you but I know it is horribly >>>>>> >> addictive and ruins everyone that gets hooked. >>>>>> >> I guess it is a version of speed. But no direct experience with >>>>>> that >>>>>> >> either. Not wanting anything that cause my hear to race. >>>>>> >> Coke Zero does that enough for me. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of horrific surgeries >>>>>> >> (decompression of the spine, harrington rods, 14 lag screws into >>>>>> her >>>>>> >> vertebrae). >>>>>> >> But she didn't get hooked. Claimed it worked really well. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley >>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:08 PM >>>>>> >> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound >>>>>> like fun >>>>>> >> and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted, all I know >>>>>> about >>>>>> >> bath salts are the videos I've come across. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Steve Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>> They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16 >>>>>> >>> doses od suboxone (essentially heroin) 11.8 grams of bath salts. >>>>>> >>> other misch controlled substance pills as well as delivery of >>>>>> meth >>>>>> >>> charges. >>>>>> >>> fucking bath salts >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com >>>>>> >>> <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I hear the same shit as lewis and the sheriff mentioned that >>>>>> Every >>>>>> >>> vehicle that is pulled over has some form of drug or >>>>>> paraphernalia >>>>>> >>> in it. >>>>>> >>> Meth is the demon drug that will cause even the most humble >>>>>> become >>>>>> >>> demented. >>>>>> >>> A peer of my rank in the army said "That some were just not >>>>>> meant >>>>>> >>> to breed!" We laughed about it but I do believe there is some >>>>>> >>> truth to that. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On 04/15/2018 05:11 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>>>> >>>> I think Meth answers all your "why" questions. Since I deal >>>>>> with >>>>>> >>>> almost every sheriff in and most every drug focused law >>>>>> >>>> enforcement I hear a lot of their stories. One of them tells >>>>>> me >>>>>> >>>> that 95%+ of crime is drug related. CPS type problems they >>>>>> put at >>>>>> >>>> about 80% with the remaining 15% made of of perverts that >>>>>> should >>>>>> >>>> probably be castrated upon a verdict. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 10:03 AM Chuck McCown < >>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com >>>>>> >>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> I had a similar situation. Rather my wife did. We took >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>> kids in (her sister�s kids). >>>>>> >>>> Very similar situation, neglected, abused, drugs etc. >>>>>> >>>> One of the parents got them back for a while, then the >>>>>> other. >>>>>> >>>> Those kids still think of my wife as �mom�. They >>>>>> are all >>>>>> >>>> grown up with grandkids of their own now. >>>>>> >>>> One of them is a solid cop in Reno. The other has not >>>>>> turned >>>>>> >>>> out so well. >>>>>> >>>> The world needs standup guys like you. >>>>>> >>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>>>> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:00 PM >>>>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents >>>>>> >>>> You folks get my vent because i cant anywherr else. So >>>>>> like 7 >>>>>> >>>> years ago we took in my old ladys nephews because, well >>>>>> >>>> fuckwit parents. FYI the foster care system is aweful. We >>>>>> >>>> fostered them for a year and half while her brother and >>>>>> baby >>>>>> >>>> momma sorted their shit, or so we thought. The 18 month >>>>>> old >>>>>> >>>> at the time had a club foot, i had to build a sleeping >>>>>> rig >>>>>> >>>> with some shoes with the ankles hooked together and the >>>>>> toes >>>>>> >>>> locked outward with a ruler, i worked his legs in and >>>>>> out til >>>>>> >>>> his hip popped one night, i thought i broke his hip, but >>>>>> it >>>>>> >>>> was just something going back. The 4 year old you couldbt >>>>>> >>>> understand cause they thought baby talk was cute so they >>>>>> >>>> never taught him to speak. We fixed that, and that was >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>> least bad of the fuckery. This was me, the old lady, >>>>>> >>>> a1,2,4,and 5 year old with our 2 in a tiny 2 bedroom. >>>>>> >>>> Finally got these boys shaped up and bought a house for >>>>>> room, >>>>>> >>>> and a week later they gave them back to the mom. The old >>>>>> >>>> ladies brother never did what he was supposed to. >>>>>> >>>> Now today was their grandmas (my old ladies step moms) >>>>>> >>>> funeral, so whats this trashcan do? Gets arrested for >>>>>> selling >>>>>> >>>> fucking meth >>>>>> >>>> So dealing with all that comes with a funeral, we had to >>>>>> be >>>>>> >>>> late dealing with the child services people. Get all that >>>>>> >>>> squared away, get through the funeral and now find out we >>>>>> >>>> also get the joy of headlice. >>>>>> >>>> Seriously, fucking shit fuck. How do people do this shit >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>> kids, theyre not just a thing you have while doing other >>>>>> >>>> things. >>>>>> >>>> Im not lawfully allowed to discuss any of this with >>>>>> anyone >>>>>> >>>> who is remotely involved, i figure none of you are. >>>>>> >>>> But seriously, what the fuck, you get your kids back and >>>>>> sell >>>>>> >>>> meth. 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