John I know you know this, so perhaps you're clickbaiting me. :-)
Digital devices do not pass the qualia test. Therefore, the example is invalid. However, it has relevance for this debate. As a thought experiment, perhaps try an example of the interaction between yourself, your PC's processor, the resident operating system, and a peripheral device. It should be interesting. ________________________________ From: johnr...@polyplexic.com <johnr...@polyplexic.com> Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:06 To: AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> Subject: Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: Any generalized system relying on the random, subjective input value of qualia would give rise to the systems constraint of ambiguity. Therefore, as a policy, all subjectively-derived data would introduce a semantic anomaly into any system - by design. This has significance for the assertion that qualia input would be useful for symbolic systems. Simple example, my PC and mouse communicate. They're separated. Assume they have simple digital qualia. Is the mouse able to compute the k-complexity of the PC? No. It's estimated. Does the PC use the qualia of the mouse that are communicated? Click click. The mouse is compressing my finger action into simple digital symbols for communication. Can I compute the exact electron flow and mechanical action, IOW feel the mouse’s qualia? No, it's estimated but estimated very reliably with almost zero errors. Take more complicated distributed systems with more symbol complexity and it's still the same principle except that more consciousness is generally required among the communicating agents. John Artificial General Intelligence List<https://agi.topicbox.com/latest> / AGI / see discussions<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-M6c1a44183a5c4d56e8f57655> ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-Md08315f9b5aacd84d59429e4 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
