Ben, Links to both Arthur Franz’s video and slides are on the AGI-19 website here: http://agi-conf.org/2019/schedule/
—matt > On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote: > > See also Arthur Franz's work on biasing AIXI (Hutter's > infinite-resources theoretical totally general AGI) toward our > physical universe. He gave a great talk on this at AGI-19 in > Shenzhen in August, and the video may unfortunately not be online yet, > but I think he has a PDF paper on this posted somewhere also... (he > has an AGI team working out of Kiev...) > > ben > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM Danko Nikolic <danko.niko...@gmail.com > <mailto:danko.niko...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Ben, >> >> Thanks for that information. Let me mull over it. >> >> Danko >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:57 AM Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote: >>> >>> Are you familiar with Marcus Hutter's work on Universal AI? >>> >>> The general message there is: Truly, fully general intelligence is >>> only feasible with infinite computing power. >>> >>> However, that's not really what matters in our physical universe, let >>> alone in the human world here on Earth... >>> >>> Eons ago I aimed to formalize a more real-life-oriented variant of >>> Legg and Hutters formalization of the general intelligence notion, >>> >>> http://agi-conf.org/2010/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/paper_14.pdf >>> >>> The "no free lunch theorem" mathematically connects w/ the statistical >>> decision theory underlying Hutter's work, it's all essentially the >>> same story. In essence, we may not get a free lunch but we can get a >>> cheaper lunch if we buy it from our relatives. I.e. yes real-world >>> general intelligence has to do with biasing somewhat-general >>> intelligence toward the specific patterns in the actual universe the >>> intelligence has to deal with. Deep NNs are a small example of this, >>> in that their hierarchical structure represents a biasing toward the >>> hierarchical structuring commonplace in our region of the physical >>> universe. >>> >>> I tried to formalize the relation btw world/goal structures and >>> mind-structures here, >>> >>> https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-Mind-World-Correspondence-Principle-Goertzel/ec4ca4401f38ec10d8d3cf40c39af0a4bfe86557 >>> >>> How useful this sort of formalization is for actually building AGI is >>> an open question. My current AGI research is focused on >>> formalizations that bridge the math used in practical integrative AGI >>> systems like OpenCog with the math used in these sorts of abstract >>> formalizations... >>> >>> -- Ben >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:44 PM Danko Nikolić <danko.niko...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am curious to learn what the people here think about the idea that the >>>> notion of general intelligence contradicts the no-free-lunch-theorem. >>>> >>>> Do you guys agree that a contradiction exists? If so, is that a problem? >>>> Would that mean that no form of general intelligence could ever exist? >>>> >>>> Also, does anyone here undertake any explicit efforts to circumvent this >>>> contradiction? >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot. >>>> >>>> Danko >>>> >>>> Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + >>>> participants + delivery options Permalink >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to >>> live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same >>> time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, >>> burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders >>> across the stars.” -- Jack Kerouac >> >> >> >> -- >> Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolić >> www.danko-nikolic.com <http://www.danko-nikolic.com/> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/danko-nikolic/ >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/danko-nikolic/> >> Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants >> + delivery options Permalink > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org <http://goertzel.org/> > > “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to > live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same > time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, > burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders > across the stars.” -- Jack Kerouac > > ------------------------------------------ > Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI > Permalink: > https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T353f2000d499d93b-M2f84c45164bddfb6b6a78151 > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T353f2000d499d93b-M2f84c45164bddfb6b6a78151> > Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T353f2000d499d93b-M11ce4293399e8d3cd5d6f359 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
