On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 11:18 AM Matt Mahoney <mattmahone...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... > Maybe AI decides to keep humans around because our energy needs are a tiny > fraction of what we need. > Think about thinking² as thinking about turning fermions and photons into experiments to discover -- discover what? Discover how to turn fermions and photons into experiments. Terrestrial chauvinism would have us think rocks are abundant sources of fermions. But look at stellar evolution and ask yourself what portion of the universe outside of stellar gravity wells are rocks? If the gas giants are any indication, it makes a lot more sense to use organic fermions to capture and process photons. Moreover stellar husbandry holds the promise of harvesting light elements -- much lighter than silicon -- from deep within the stellar gravity wells. Oh, sure, one can imagine stellar husbandry focused on inducing supernovae to produce the heavier elements, but then one has the problem of refining the ejecta. Here's what I think we're actually seeing: r vs K strategy stages in directed panspermia: (Asexual, r): a few billion years of “war” between eat-or-be-eaten cellular mats leading to multicellular specialization (such as slime mold with fruiting bodies, etc.) (Sexual, r): several hundred million years of gametes sniffing out and sizing up each other leading to primate neurons – conflict is primarily individual vs individual and predatory (Sexual, K): several million years of more efficient primate neurons modeling the environment leading to Man – “conspiracy” and gang-formation becomes a capacity due to neural complexity (Asexual, K): several thousand years of slime mold-like fruiting bodies (civilization) suppressing individual vs individual male intrasexual selection thereby converting Man, the sexual being, and hydrothermal ores, into hardened spores containing the organic molecules that then enter into a space-borne eat-or-be-eaten evolution of continual war, reducing the internal organic beings into constituent molecules as payload Of course, there is most likely a regime of replicators that never descend into the gravity wells at all, but it isn't entirely obvious that these would end up producing what Sexual, K does: cognition. ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T6510028eea311a76-Mf7c02faad346b9d5443dc697 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
