That's the gist of it. However, many experiments are testing with exotic materials, even commercial materials, and water. It's not all about power generation in the usual sense. Think - warp-core propulsion. For example, I'm aware of forcefield experiments for body armor, and so on.
Nobody's begging investors at all, but entry level $multimillion are for visionaries, not the faint hearted. I'm interest in estimating where the demand may lie. The Ford/Edison/Kodak story is a useful case study. And off course, the infaous Nikola Tesla reality check. As I mentioned, partisan considerations rule. When it comes to strategic tech, I think governments have a bigger interest in discouraging independent researchers than empowering them to become future competitors. I understand your sentiments, but my example was just an example. There's no shortage in this world of hi-tech product designs. Relatively speaking, ZPE research is in its infancy. Unless you really know what you're doing (the kind of thing CERN et all look into), it can be downright dangerous. I mean, opening wormholes in the Earth's atmosphere can be serious business. Could be the risks aren't worth the investment to try and get a product approved? I'm a theoretical, not an experimental researcher. How exactly that setup works remains obscure to me. On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 12:39 AM WriterOfMinds <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sunday, November 16, 2025, at 2:42 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > Are you talking about a perpetual motion? > > > A ZPE device (I'm used to seeing the acronym translated to "zero point > energy") is not a perpetual motion machine in the usual sense. It > (theoretically) extracts latent energy from the quantum vacuum and makes it > usable. So it does not create energy from nothing, nor does it have to > convert/use energy losslessly. Technically it does have an input, just not > one the user has to provide. > > A lot of the usual questions still apply. Any free energy device that's > more than vaporware should already be making its possessor money ... > especially since you can sort of directly convert electricity into money > via crypto mining, now. Why is there a need to beg investors for anything? > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-Mcd5abfaed6043531bd9f23a4> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-Mdd391e023c284725b7a398e7 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
