To build an explicit functional creativity you have to go into definitions even if the result is the definition. Even if building an implicit creativity that emerges from an autopoietic self. Or a relativity defined creativity from an observational standpoint. Creativity is relational and a mathematical concept of creativity can subdivided.
IMO a "creativity" could be a search through morphisms of experiential computational complexity patterns applied on relatively unrelated patterns correlated through some expressive indicativistic search potential (the best I can articulate verbally). This would only be a portion of what the generally accepted view of what creativity is. So with my little math subset of "creativity" I would not refer to it as that but it would fall under the umbrella. My original question though was if an explicit/a priori creativity would need to have an input variable as reference to a self as our human view of creativity is based on a similar search result’s (as described above) effectiveness. A "creative" solution to a problem, a "creative" musical composition. Does creativity rely on a relation to a self as possessor and/or observer? Is there a common relationship of creativity across selves without self? That’s all that I was thinking about... John From: Anastasios Tsiolakidis [mailto:[email protected]] a bit of an exercise in futility methinks this topic, unless the definition allowed to quickly screen human and machine "culture" for creativity. Since I consider "survival" (of the "selves" you might say, as there is strength in numbers and speciation) as the key driver of intelligence, it follows that the self must be in all equations. Presumably creativity is keeping the self alive and its memes spreading while generating new domains and new sub-domains of activity, cognitive imperialism you might call it, perhaps I was drinking water from a cup and you start flipping and flying glasses and bottles all over the place like Tom Cruise in that movie. If barman skills were 100% showmanship then probably they wouldn't exist, but since you get a bit of a workout too and get your drinks mixed in the process, while partially satisfying the demands of innovation seekers, then you probably have constructive creativity, As I have pointed out before, the surviving self is a rather non-computable entity, eternally waltzing towards its own annihilation with little to show for it in the process, so I would not go into definitions and algorithms for the self or its creative side, perhaps after creating the self I have no need for further definitions, it could well be the self has a need for definitions but that is not my problem or yours, is it? AT AGI | <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/248029-3b178a58> | <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Modify Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
