Yes, the big weakness of the whole Cyc framework is learning.  Their logic
engine seems to be pretty poor at incremental, experiential learning ... in
linguistics as in every other domain.

I don't think they have a workable approach to NL understanding or
generation ... I was just pointing out that they *are* explicitly devoting a
lot of resources to the problem ...

ben g

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- On Sun, 9/28/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >FYI, Cyc has a natural language front end and a lot of folks have been
> >working on it for the last 5+ years...
>
> It still needs work. I found this undated (2004 or later) white paper which
> is apparently not linked from cyc.com.
> http://www.cyc.com/doc/white_papers/KRAQ2005.pdf
>
> And also this overview.
> http://www.cyc.com/cyc/cycrandd/areasofrandd_dir/nlu
>
> The overview claims to be able to convert natural language sentences into
> Cycl assertions, and to convert questions to Cycl queries. So I wonder why
> the knowledge base is still not being built this way. And I wonder why there
> is no public demo of the interface, and no papers giving verifiable
> experimental results.
>
> It seems to me the main limitation is that the language model has to be
> described formally in Cycl, as a lexicon and rules for parsing and
> disambiguation. There seems to be no mechanism for learning natural language
> by example. For example, if Cyc receives a sentence it cannot parse, or is
> ambiguous, or has a word not in its vocabulary or used in a different way,
> then there is no mechanism to update the model, which is something humans
> easily do. Given the complexity of English, I think this is a serious
> limitation with no easy solution.
>
> -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
> agi
> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now
> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/
> Modify Your Subscription:
> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;
> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
>



-- 
Ben Goertzel, PhD
CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC
Director of Research, SIAI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first
overcome "  - Dr Samuel Johnson



-------------------------------------------
agi
Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now
RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/
Modify Your Subscription: 
https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=114414975-3c8e69
Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com

Reply via email to