Matt:MT>
To make this more concrete - a physics/reductionist
approach cannot explain
the *plasticity* of matter. Natural objects are not like
artificial
objects - like a brick wall that can be deconstructed both
analytically and
physically into precise, discrete parts/bricks.
Yes it can. You could derive the fact that atoms can move relative to one
another from their quantum wave equations. What you can't do is explain
the universe in enough detail that you could predict all of the future
events that matter to you. That's because you need 10^122 bits to describe
the state of the observable universe in a deterministic model, and your
brain only has 10^9 bits of memory.
Matt,
What are the shapes/forms (and range of shapes/forms) of atoms? And the
range of shapes/forms of fundamental particles? And what are the range of
possible forms of any of those ranges of forms?
And how would you or physics derive the properties of different materials
from these shapes? Why is it that rigidity is a collective property of an
iron bar, but not an iron atom?
IOW how do you know what can and can't be predicted from atoms and
fundamental particles? And doesn't your (and science's) Lego picture of the
world have a great deal of v. fundamental holes, and involve a great deal of
assumed parts and frameworks which may be - indeed are almost certainly,
given the history of science - false?
P.S. Can you please explain how computation itself is computable - given
that it doesn't have to be instantiated on any particular physical
substrate - and can be on everything from silicon chips to buckets of water
and abaci? It would be a bit silly if you can't, no?.
But if you can't do that, please give one example of how *any* form of
emergence in the history of the world is explicable by physics. It would be
even sillier if you can't do that, no, and yet are still making mindblowing
claims about what can be explained re the universe?
You have, as Ben has pointed out, been repeatedly assuming more or less
divine knowledge of the world. [Who else could know that it takes exactly
10^122 bits to describe the state of the observable universe, or $1
quadrillion to create AGI? Such awesome precision and certainty). It
shouldn't be too much to ask you to enlighten us lesser mortals as to just
one or two of the world's other secrets here ). And where will the S&P 500
be at the end of Tuesday?
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agi
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