Bob,

On 11/18/08, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2008/11/18 Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I am considering putting up a web site to "filter the crazies" as
> follows,
> > and would appreciate all comments, suggestions, etc.
>
>
> This all sounds peachy in principle, but I expect it would exclude
> virtually everyone except perhaps a few of the most diehard
> philosophers.


My goal is to identify those people who:
1.  Are capable of rational thought, whether or not they chose to use that
ability. I plan to test this with some simple problem solving.
2.  Are not SO connected with some shitforbrains religious group/belief that
they would predictably use dangerous technology to harm others. I plan to
test this by simply demanding a declaration, which would send most such
believers straight to Hell.

Beyond that, I agree that it starts to get pretty hopeless.

I think most people have at least a few beliefs which
> cannot be strictly justified rationally, and that would include many
> AI researchers.


... and probably include both of us as well.

Irrational or inconsistent beliefs originate from
> being an entity with finite resources - finite experience and finite
> processing power and time with which to analyze the data.  Many people
> use quick lookups handed to them by individuals considered to be of
> higher social status, principally because they don't have time or
> inclination to investigate the issues directly themselves.


However, when someone (like me) points out carefully selected passages that
are REALLY crazy, then do they re-evaluate, or continue to accept everything
they see in the book?

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in
> almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from
> authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue
> but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose
> opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." - Mark Twain


I completely agree. The question here is whether these people are capable of
questioning and re-evaluation. If so, then they get their license.

Steve Richfield



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