That's not true at all. Many meaningful win mechanics are as those in other
games: the person who does best at something. For instance, we could decide
to award a win to the player who votes on the most proposals in a month; no
deceit is necessary for the competition.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 17:29 Corona, <liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Indeed, if one is not willing to participate in the questionable
> practice of trading wins (I'll support your proposal to award yourself
> a win if you support mine), every win in nomics must involve some
> level of deceit, as one can't force a win, or offer anything less than
> a win for a win, as 'wins' are the most valuable 'asset'.
>
> On 11/22/17, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, me neither, I don't like the idea of breaking the rules just to
> prevent
> > a win. A win is a win, and if someone wins because of a scam, so what?
> They
> > become the Speaker, and the game moves on.
> >
> > On 11/22/2017 3:44 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 20:39 +0000, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> >>> Ahh, hmm, I think that might work provided we can get a non-player to
> >>> call sufficient CFJs. Given the volume we couldn't do it with Shinies
> >>> alone.
> >>
> >> I can do 5, but am unwilling to violate the rules as part of a
> >> counterscam. (Also, I haven't thought of good topics for them yet.)
> >>
> >
>

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