Hello Andy, If you were able to watch a television would you want to stand back and get the whole picture with reasonable detail. Then you want a omnidirectional microphone that you can protect from the weather. As some condenser mics are easily destroyed by moisture. So on that logic you are looking at a dynamic omnidirectional. The quality is dependent upon the size of your wallet.
However, if you want more detailed image then you would get closer to the television and just focus upon a smaller area but at greater death and detail. The Shotguns would record birds in a small group of trees not one bird in a particular tree as others have suggested. The cardioid pattern is like imagining the mic has a funnel on the end of it. So the further from the mic the wider the spread. But never to its sides or back. Thus if you had a noisy road or farm machinery you could place the mic so those sources are behind the mic. It is fun to try different microphones and see what harvests your fields. If you do use a quiet dynamic microphone you might want to consider using a fethead so that you don’t have to crank up those pre-amps. They are really terrible on the H6. Regards, > On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io > <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: > > Hi all. > > Getting more confused as the day goes on. > > The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just > the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just > about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width, > > I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the > attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area. > > Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a > wide spread. > > For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded > at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle > microphone. > > > Can you guess what is wrong with my recording? > > https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos > > I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with > a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River > Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas??? > > Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look at > the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube . > > It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good > podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer. > > So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more > consideration. > > Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record > Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by > Gena. > > > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > > > > for ----- > > > > Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <g...@gena-j.me.uk> > To: <all-audio@groups.io> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom > > > Hello John, > > Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun > might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or > those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a > heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If > Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional > microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, > if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus > there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to > decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does > Andy want? > > There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones > so you can hear the extent of the pattern. > > Regards, >> On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io >> <j.gurd=ntlworld....@groups.io> wrote: >> >> I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an >> individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus >> is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a >> stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully. >> >> PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big >> garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to >> sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he >> only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn >> chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for >> that very reason. 😉 >> >> John >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce >> Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41 >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >> >> Hello John, >> >> They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down >> to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me >> to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. >> He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge >> estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird >> watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional >> sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this: >> >> https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations >> >> Regards, >> >> >>> On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io >>> <j.gurd=ntlworld....@groups.io> wrote: >>> >>> From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being >>> off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be >>> the best for ambient recordings. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce >>> Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16 >>> To: all-audio@groups.io >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>> >>> Hello Andy, >>> >>> It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky >>> who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I >>> haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I >>> purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I >>> think that would really do the job. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io >>>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all. >>>> >>>> I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are >>>> the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6. >>>> >>>> I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue >>>> as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it. >>>> >>>> I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat >>>> windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR >>>> plugs. >>>> >>>> Can anyone please give me some advice. >>>> >>>> Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant option >>>> within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the recording was >>>> extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets >>>> the device back to factory settings. >>>> >>>> I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence >>>> to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some samples. >>>> >>>> Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves. >>>> >>>> Andy Logue from Scotland. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Gena >>> >>> Call: M0EBP >>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>> Loc: IO83PS >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Gena >> >> Call: M0EBP >> DMR ID: 2346259 >> Loc: IO83PS >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Gena > > Call: M0EBP > DMR ID: 2346259 > Loc: IO83PS > 73 > > > > > > > Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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