Ah the mid side ball. Okay. So what don't you like about it? Like how
did it capture the birds that you didn't like? Now you do understand the
mid side technique right? It's using 2 seperate mics. A cardioid which
even Gina has meantioned here. The 1 with the heart shaped signel. But
also a figure of 8 capsel. This figure of 8 or by derectional capsle as
Podcastage the dude Gena was saying dances around the mics calls it as
you can probabaly guess hears out of the sides. So the ideal thing is to
aim the mics directly at a particular sorce and the mid cardioid mic
captures it whilst the figure of 8 gives you that stereo spread. Meh I
prefer the XY mics just because they are better mics sound wize and they
also can take up to 136 DB SPL. If they took 2 more they could handle
the Victory Bell syren at 100 feet away. Man that thing is cool. It's an
air rade syren powered by a truck engine. No but yeah to make things
easy from what you said you want if it's just you want better quality
the AT-8022 stereo mic will do. Or if you want to save money and don't
care to use phantum power the AT-2022 will also do. Neal has 1 and now
at least as far as the F6 goes is out of luck. Because the thing doesn't
have quarter intch jaccks. Nor can you use the snap offs.
On 5/12/2020 6:26 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi Hamit.
it's the mid side I was using. A very broad sount front though seem a
little noisier than the XY clip, as they sound a bit noisier.
I'll have a go at your instructions for pasting a url to a particular
file, though I don't use Google chrome, though use Internet Explorer
and Outlook Express, so your instructions may still work for me.
.
Very best wishes.
Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
Andy with youtube well assuming and sorry if I forgot assuming you
can post live links in your message just go back to said video you
wanted to shair, if using google chrome hit F6 grabb that adress by
cutting it than paste it into your email. No need for a folder. Now
this right angle clip mic. Which 1 do u mean? There's the 1 with the
2 barrel capsels you can turn. This is the XY snap off. there's also
a ball. This is the mid side mic set up. But assuming you meant the
XY setup, what didn't you like about them? They're nice. Sure they
aren't studio mics. But nice and crisp. Role them backwards towards
you and they are at 120 degrees XY.
On 5/12/2020 5:44 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
Hi Georgina.
There is a double space halfway down my message to the list. In
there was supposed to be a Sendspace link to a very recent recording
of the Dawn Chorus from my garden. On looking again to my message I
see that the Sendspace link is missing.
I was hoping to let you all heare my Zoom H6 with the right angle
clip on microphone recording the dozens of birds I have in my
garden, but I suppose that I forgot to paste it in there.
Another member had today asked me to give here the Youtube link as
she didn't have a Senspace account. Unfortunately, I don't have a
Youtube folder so could'nt help her out.
Thats a great pity as I'd have loved for you all to listen and tell
me what is wrong with my recording.
Very best wishes.
Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <g...@gena-j.me.uk>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
Hello Andy,
When you ask to guess, what are you asking? What is it you don’t
like about it?
Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io
<meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all.
Getting more confused as the day goes on.
The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio -
it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast
microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording
requires a degree of width,
I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can
see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or
area.
Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor
microphone with a wide spread.
For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus,
recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip
on right angle microphone.
Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos
I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio
Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300
feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use
in Texas???
Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should
look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .
It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make
it a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.
So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote
more consideration.
Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to
Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided
earlier today by Gena.
Very best wishes.
Andy.
for -----
Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <g...@gena-j.me.uk>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
Hello John,
Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a
shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus
upon one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the
pickup area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does
not express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide
stage then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a
stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants
that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there
are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him
to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size
stage does Andy want?
There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the
microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.
Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io
<j.gurd=ntlworld....@groups.io> wrote:
I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record
an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A
dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird.
As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this
successfully.
PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe
not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are
territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and
I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing
in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big
weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very
reason. 😉
John
-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
Hello John,
They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape
tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research
and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth.
Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song
from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going
to be that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a
shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional
sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:
https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations
Regards,
On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io
<j.gurd=ntlworld....@groups.io> wrote:
From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even
being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I
doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Georgina Joyce
Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
Hello Andy,
It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the
Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the
Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those
but I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I
absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would
really do the job.
Regards,
On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io
<meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all.
I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones
I have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.
I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't
have a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and
where to buy it.
I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large
Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the
appropriate XLR plugs.
Can anyone please give me some advice.
Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an
inportant option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls
and the recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a
function within the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory
settings.
I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise
pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to
here some samples.
Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.
Andy Logue from Scotland.
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