OK, what is a cloud lifter? On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:53:00 -0400, Georgina Joyce wrote: > > Hello, > > Providing we are talking about XLR connected mics and have access to fantom > power. Don’t forget the fethead an alternative to the cloud lifter. They also > do one for condenser mics. > > Regards, > > > > On 15 May 2020, at 19:38, frank cuta <c...@bentonrea.com> wrote: > > > > There are several ways to reduce noise. You can start with the NT1A, you > > can switch from the H6 to the F8N which has a lot more noise free gain or > > you can stick with a mic of your choice and the H6 and buy a cloud lifter. > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit > > Campos > > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:39 AM > > To: all-audio@groups.io > > Subject: Noise floor > > > > > > Ah good. It's a great podcast. What I love most is that it's the 1 pod > > cast where he uses the NT1-A the most. > > > > On 5/14/2020 10:36 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >> Hello Andy, > >> > >> Really appreciated. I have got it and now put it on my Trek. > >> > >> Thank you. > >>> On 14 May 2020, at 14:31, Andy via groups.io > > <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Georgena, Hamit and list. > >>> > >>> Gena asked for Neals Review. Are we talking about BSM binaural > > microphones or the H6. > >>> > >>> If the latter, you can get it at here: > >>> > >>> Sendspace. > >>> > >>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/xogibu > >>> > >>> I've a number of Neals podcasts from BCT but not them all. > >>> > >>> Hamit you said that Dane had them. > >>> > >>> You could not provide me with his e-mail address so I can ask for some or > > all of them if possible. > >>> > >>> I discovered years ago that Neal rarelly replies to messages. Perhaps > > I'll try again. > >>> > >>> Rick Harmon held the BCT Archieve at on time. Perhaps I'll drop the big > > guy a wee message and see if he has retained any of them. > >>> > >>> Very best wishes. > >>> > >>> Andy. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com> > >>> To: <all-audio@groups.io> > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:43 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How would > > you do it? > >>> > >>> > >>>> Ah Neal Ewers. Yes he is a studio person from Madison Wisconsin. He use > > to do reviews on Blind cool tech. His site is www.ravenswood.org I don't > > know what happened to his reviews page and his H6 review is pretty big. On > >>>> > >>>> On 5/14/2020 7:50 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>> Hello Andy and Hamit, > >>>>> > >>>>> Who is this Neil, can you point to his review? > >>>>> > >>>>> All electronic devices make a noise but most of them are out of our > > hearing range. An amplifier does make a noise especially when it is cranked > > up to it's maximum. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are known for being noisy. So can > > you quote Neil saying that the Zoom 6 preamps are not noisy? > >>>>> > >>>>> Andy you can hear the pre-amp hiss on your bird recording. There are 2 > > ways you could eliminate or at least reduce that hiss if you wanted. That I > > know of. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 14 May 2020, at 10:08, Andy via groups.io > > <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Guys. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You may remember within his H6 Review, Neal stated "I would not know > > just how to measure the Floor noise , because there doesent seem to be one! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Andy. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" > > <hamitcam...@gmail.com <mailto:hamitcam...@gmail.com>> > >>>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How > > would you do it? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ah yeah than 35 must be the 1 Neal sent. He sent it to the Reaper > > list. I've yet to finish that 1. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 12:17 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hello Hamit, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No 36 is out. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 17:04, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Is 35 the newest 1? IF so no I've meant to just haven't gotten to > > it. Will do soon though. Thanks for the reminder. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hello Hamit, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Out of interest do you listen to Mosen at large (specifically 35)? > > He is singing from the roof about the F6 as it has an iPhone app which is > > not perfect but gives access to functions we have never had access to > > before. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 16:07, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Actually Gena there's 1 place where I'll give it to ya. Dynamic > > mics. This is also true for the H5 but much much less oddly enough. Same for > > the H4N Pro. The H6 in this respect is again as noisy as the Olympus LS-100. > > Now can't say on the F6 as no one's demoed dynamics on that yet and Neal > > hasn't demoed dynamics on his 744-T so can't say nothing on that either. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:02 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Aidan, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well I am picky, there is nothing wrong in getting the best out > > of the equipment. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are renowned for their hiss. It would > > be useful to share your tips to get the most from the recorder. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 13:52, Aidan <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If using something like h6 I cannot really imagine that you > > would need > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to apply noise filters. Unless you very picky. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/20, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Tim, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, if using a non destructive DAW like reaper, if it > > is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrectly applied simply undo it. I am not familiar with > > using expanders. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the noise comes from whatever equipment. Very few mics > > have a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> undetectable noise floor and even the best pre-amps have some > > noise. So a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> light touch of post processing is likely to be required. But > > as you rightly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> point out it is down to the environment and what purpose the > > recording is to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 12:23, tim cumings <thcumi...@comcast.net> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree about most of theadvice here. However i would be > > careful about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a noise gate. If set incorrectly, a noise gate can make > > things sound > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse than better. A downward expander would be better, but > > if you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a quality mic and have recording levels set properly, > > even a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downward expander probably isn't necessary, depending on what > > you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2020 5:30 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rather than making the current discussion on Zoom > > Microphones. very long > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would ask the community of their experiences > > and how they > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undertake a recording? As I was not sure if Andy wanted tips > > on recording > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques I thought such a thread would help him and those > > of us who > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Zoom. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I would record in wav. Then use reaper to apply a > > noise gate. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This removes hiss and other quiet unwanted noises. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not use a capsule on the recorder unless it was the > > only mic > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for that application. Using such a mic I would > > secure the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder and start the recording early so that I could > > discard the first > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second as it will contain handling noise. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not wear noisy clothing or jewellery and try to get > > away from the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active recording space. It is surprising how clothing, > > shoes and bangles > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rustle and jangle when you are trying to be quiet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it is about choosing the mic for the sound stage I am > > trying to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capture. Remembering that the wider stage means that I have > > to be that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much quieter. It could pick me up breathing and moving my > > feet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there are practical considerations such as power for > > the Zoom and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection from wind and rain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of the top of my head these are the considerations I would > > employ before > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a recording. 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