Hello Frank, The problem with the cloud lifter is that you need 2 cables. Where as the Fethead is in line. Fethead also have a version that passes fantom on to the mic should you need gain on a condenser. I think the Fethead may be a little cheaper too.
Regards, > On 16 May 2020, at 02:03, frank cuta <c...@bentonrea.com> wrote: > > A small box with XLR in and out connectors and no other switches or > connectors. It's a mic preamp designed to lift the signal of low output > mics out of the noise floor. Without looking it up I am not sure how much > gain you get but 24 dB seems close. Given this additional gain you can > operate your recorder preamps in a more comfortable mid range setting. > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of John > Covici > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 2:36 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Noise floor > > > OK, what is a cloud lifter? > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:53:00 -0400, > Georgina Joyce wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Providing we are talking about XLR connected mics and have access to > fantom power. Don?t forget the fethead an alternative to the cloud lifter. > They also do one for condenser mics. >> >> Regards, >> >> >>> On 15 May 2020, at 19:38, frank cuta <c...@bentonrea.com> wrote: >>> >>> There are several ways to reduce noise. You can start with the NT1A, > you >>> can switch from the H6 to the F8N which has a lot more noise free gain > or >>> you can stick with a mic of your choice and the H6 and buy a cloud > lifter. >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of > Hamit >>> Campos >>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:39 AM >>> To: all-audio@groups.io >>> Subject: Noise floor >>> >>> >>> Ah good. It's a great podcast. What I love most is that it's the 1 pod >>> cast where he uses the NT1-A the most. >>> >>> On 5/14/2020 10:36 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>> Hello Andy, >>>> >>>> Really appreciated. I have got it and now put it on my Trek. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>>> On 14 May 2020, at 14:31, Andy via groups.io >>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Georgena, Hamit and list. >>>>> >>>>> Gena asked for Neals Review. Are we talking about BSM binaural >>> microphones or the H6. >>>>> >>>>> If the latter, you can get it at here: >>>>> >>>>> Sendspace. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/xogibu >>>>> >>>>> I've a number of Neals podcasts from BCT but not them all. >>>>> >>>>> Hamit you said that Dane had them. >>>>> >>>>> You could not provide me with his e-mail address so I can ask for some > or >>> all of them if possible. >>>>> >>>>> I discovered years ago that Neal rarelly replies to messages. Perhaps >>> I'll try again. >>>>> >>>>> Rick Harmon held the BCT Archieve at on time. Perhaps I'll drop the > big >>> guy a wee message and see if he has retained any of them. >>>>> >>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>> >>>>> Andy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" > <hamitcam...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:43 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How > would >>> you do it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Ah Neal Ewers. Yes he is a studio person from Madison Wisconsin. He > use >>> to do reviews on Blind cool tech. His site is www.ravenswood.org I don't >>> know what happened to his reviews page and his H6 review is pretty big. > On >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/14/2020 7:50 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Andy and Hamit, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Who is this Neil, can you point to his review? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All electronic devices make a noise but most of them are out of our >>> hearing range. An amplifier does make a noise especially when it is > cranked >>> up to it's maximum. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are known for being noisy. So > can >>> you quote Neil saying that the Zoom 6 preamps are not noisy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy you can hear the pre-amp hiss on your bird recording. There are > 2 >>> ways you could eliminate or at least reduce that hiss if you wanted. > That I >>> know of. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 14 May 2020, at 10:08, Andy via groups.io >>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Guys. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You may remember within his H6 Review, Neal stated "I would not > know >>> just how to measure the Floor noise , because there doesent seem to be > one! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" >>> <hamitcam...@gmail.com <mailto:hamitcam...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How >>> would you do it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ah yeah than 35 must be the 1 Neal sent. He sent it to the Reaper >>> list. I've yet to finish that 1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 12:17 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hello Hamit, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No 36 is out. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 17:04, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is 35 the newest 1? IF so no I've meant to just haven't gotten > to >>> it. Will do soon though. Thanks for the reminder. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Hamit, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Out of interest do you listen to Mosen at large (specifically > 35)? >>> He is singing from the roof about the F6 as it has an iPhone app which > is >>> not perfect but gives access to functions we have never had access to >>> before. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 16:07, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually Gena there's 1 place where I'll give it to ya. > Dynamic >>> mics. This is also true for the H5 but much much less oddly enough. Same > for >>> the H4N Pro. The H6 in this respect is again as noisy as the Olympus > LS-100. >>> Now can't say on the F6 as no one's demoed dynamics on that yet and Neal >>> hasn't demoed dynamics on his 744-T so can't say nothing on that either. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:02 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Aidan, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I am picky, there is nothing wrong in getting the best > out >>> of the equipment. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are renowned for their hiss. It > would >>> be useful to share your tips to get the most from the recorder. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 13:52, Aidan <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If using something like h6 I cannot really imagine that you >>> would need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to apply noise filters. Unless you very picky. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/20, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Tim, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, if using a non destructive DAW like reaper, if > it >>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrectly applied simply undo it. I am not familiar with >>> using expanders. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the noise comes from whatever equipment. Very few mics >>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undetectable noise floor and even the best pre-amps have > some >>> noise. So a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light touch of post processing is likely to be required. > But >>> as you rightly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point out it is down to the environment and what purpose > the >>> recording is to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 12:23, tim cumings > <thcumi...@comcast.net> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree about most of theadvice here. However i would be >>> careful about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a noise gate. If set incorrectly, a noise gate can > make >>> things sound >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse than better. A downward expander would be better, > but >>> if you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a quality mic and have recording levels set > properly, >>> even a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downward expander probably isn't necessary, depending on > what >>> you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2020 5:30 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rather than making the current discussion on Zoom >>> Microphones. very long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would ask the community of their experiences >>> and how they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undertake a recording? As I was not sure if Andy wanted > tips >>> on recording >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques I thought such a thread would help him and > those >>> of us who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Zoom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I would record in wav. Then use reaper to apply > a >>> noise gate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This removes hiss and other quiet unwanted noises. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not use a capsule on the recorder unless it was > the >>> only mic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for that application. Using such a mic I would >>> secure the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder and start the recording early so that I could >>> discard the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second as it will contain handling noise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not wear noisy clothing or jewellery and try to > get >>> away from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active recording space. It is surprising how clothing, >>> shoes and bangles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rustle and jangle when you are trying to be quiet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it is about choosing the mic for the sound stage I > am >>> trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capture. Remembering that the wider stage means that I > have >>> to be that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much quieter. It could pick me up breathing and moving my >>> feet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there are practical considerations such as power for >>> the Zoom and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection from wind and rain. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of the top of my head these are the considerations I > would >>> employ before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a recording. 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