I see. I hope they are quiet! Hard to tell over youtube.
On Fri, 15 May 2020 18:09:01 -0400, Georgina Joyce wrote: > > Hello John, > > Nice to see your name and signature again. Take a look at this video. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCIZ60NCfk > > > > > On 15 May 2020, at 22:35, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: > > > > OK, what is a cloud lifter? > > > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:53:00 -0400, > > Georgina Joyce wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Providing we are talking about XLR connected mics and have access to > >> fantom power. Don’t forget the fethead an alternative to the cloud lifter. > >> They also do one for condenser mics. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >>> On 15 May 2020, at 19:38, frank cuta <c...@bentonrea.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> There are several ways to reduce noise. You can start with the NT1A, you > >>> can switch from the H6 to the F8N which has a lot more noise free gain or > >>> you can stick with a mic of your choice and the H6 and buy a cloud lifter. > >>> > >>> Frank > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit > >>> Campos > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:39 AM > >>> To: all-audio@groups.io > >>> Subject: Noise floor > >>> > >>> > >>> Ah good. It's a great podcast. What I love most is that it's the 1 pod > >>> cast where he uses the NT1-A the most. > >>> > >>> On 5/14/2020 10:36 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>> Hello Andy, > >>>> > >>>> Really appreciated. I have got it and now put it on my Trek. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you. > >>>>> On 14 May 2020, at 14:31, Andy via groups.io > >>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Georgena, Hamit and list. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gena asked for Neals Review. Are we talking about BSM binaural > >>> microphones or the H6. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the latter, you can get it at here: > >>>>> > >>>>> Sendspace. > >>>>> > >>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/xogibu > >>>>> > >>>>> I've a number of Neals podcasts from BCT but not them all. > >>>>> > >>>>> Hamit you said that Dane had them. > >>>>> > >>>>> You could not provide me with his e-mail address so I can ask for some > >>>>> or > >>> all of them if possible. > >>>>> > >>>>> I discovered years ago that Neal rarelly replies to messages. Perhaps > >>> I'll try again. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rick Harmon held the BCT Archieve at on time. Perhaps I'll drop the big > >>> guy a wee message and see if he has retained any of them. > >>>>> > >>>>> Very best wishes. > >>>>> > >>>>> Andy. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" > >>>>> <hamitcam...@gmail.com> > >>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:43 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How would > >>> you do it? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ah Neal Ewers. Yes he is a studio person from Madison Wisconsin. He use > >>> to do reviews on Blind cool tech. His site is www.ravenswood.org I don't > >>> know what happened to his reviews page and his H6 review is pretty big. On > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 5/14/2020 7:50 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>> Hello Andy and Hamit, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Who is this Neil, can you point to his review? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All electronic devices make a noise but most of them are out of our > >>> hearing range. An amplifier does make a noise especially when it is > >>> cranked > >>> up to it's maximum. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are known for being noisy. So can > >>> you quote Neil saying that the Zoom 6 preamps are not noisy? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Andy you can hear the pre-amp hiss on your bird recording. There are 2 > >>> ways you could eliminate or at least reduce that hiss if you wanted. That > >>> I > >>> know of. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 14 May 2020, at 10:08, Andy via groups.io > >>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Guys. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You may remember within his H6 Review, Neal stated "I would not know > >>> just how to measure the Floor noise , because there doesent seem to be > >>> one! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Andy. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" > >>> <hamitcam...@gmail.com <mailto:hamitcam...@gmail.com>> > >>>>>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How > >>> would you do it? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ah yeah than 35 must be the 1 Neal sent. He sent it to the Reaper > >>> list. I've yet to finish that 1. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 12:17 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hello Hamit, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> No 36 is out. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 17:04, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Is 35 the newest 1? IF so no I've meant to just haven't gotten to > >>> it. Will do soon though. Thanks for the reminder. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Hamit, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Out of interest do you listen to Mosen at large (specifically > >>>>>>>>>>>> 35)? > >>> He is singing from the roof about the F6 as it has an iPhone app which is > >>> not perfect but gives access to functions we have never had access to > >>> before. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 16:07, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually Gena there's 1 place where I'll give it to ya. Dynamic > >>> mics. This is also true for the H5 but much much less oddly enough. Same > >>> for > >>> the H4N Pro. The H6 in this respect is again as noisy as the Olympus > >>> LS-100. > >>> Now can't say on the F6 as no one's demoed dynamics on that yet and Neal > >>> hasn't demoed dynamics on his 744-T so can't say nothing on that either. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:02 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Aidan, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I am picky, there is nothing wrong in getting the best out > >>> of the equipment. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are renowned for their hiss. It > >>> would > >>> be useful to share your tips to get the most from the recorder. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 13:52, Aidan <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If using something like h6 I cannot really imagine that you > >>> would need > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to apply noise filters. Unless you very picky. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/20, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Tim, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, if using a non destructive DAW like reaper, if > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrectly applied simply undo it. I am not familiar with > >>> using expanders. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the noise comes from whatever equipment. Very few mics > >>> have a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undetectable noise floor and even the best pre-amps have some > >>> noise. So a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light touch of post processing is likely to be required. But > >>> as you rightly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point out it is down to the environment and what purpose the > >>> recording is to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 12:23, tim cumings > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <thcumi...@comcast.net> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree about most of theadvice here. However i would be > >>> careful about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a noise gate. If set incorrectly, a noise gate can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make > >>> things sound > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse than better. A downward expander would be better, but > >>> if you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a quality mic and have recording levels set properly, > >>> even a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downward expander probably isn't necessary, depending on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > >>> you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2020 5:30 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rather than making the current discussion on Zoom > >>> Microphones. very long > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would ask the community of their experiences > >>> and how they > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undertake a recording? As I was not sure if Andy wanted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tips > >>> on recording > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques I thought such a thread would help him and those > >>> of us who > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Zoom. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I would record in wav. Then use reaper to apply a > >>> noise gate. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This removes hiss and other quiet unwanted noises. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not use a capsule on the recorder unless it was the > >>> only mic > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for that application. Using such a mic I would > >>> secure the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder and start the recording early so that I could > >>> discard the first > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second as it will contain handling noise. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not wear noisy clothing or jewellery and try to get > >>> away from the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active recording space. It is surprising how clothing, > >>> shoes and bangles > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rustle and jangle when you are trying to be quiet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it is about choosing the mic for the sound stage I am > >>> trying to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capture. Remembering that the wider stage means that I have > >>> to be that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much quieter. It could pick me up breathing and moving my > >>> feet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there are practical considerations such as power for > >>> the Zoom and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection from wind and rain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of the top of my head these are the considerations I would > >>> employ before > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a recording. So what about your experiences and approach? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>>>>>>>> 73 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus > >>> software. > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 > >>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>>>>>> 73 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gena > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 > >>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>>>>> 73 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Gena > >>>> > >>>> Call: M0EBP > >>>> DMR ID: 2346259 > >>>> Loc: IO83PS > >>>> 73 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- > >>> No virus found in this message. > >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>> Version: 2014.0.4855 / Virus Database: 4793/15883 - Release Date: 08/14/18 > >>> Internal Virus Database is out of date. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Gena > >> > >> Call: M0EBP > >> DMR ID: 2346259 > >> Loc: IO83PS > >> 73 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Your life is like a penny. 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