Bill, I was "considering" getting another sound card, and disabling the "mother-board" sound card.
First question, of course, would be, what sound card would work best, with ALSA and Linux support - mostly need a PCI stereo sound card, I usually connect my sound card directly to my analog stereo system, for cd/tape/etc... recording, not to mention the speaker and amp are better for playback sounding. I haven't gotten into the "home theater" usage from my computer yet, so getting a card with this kind of support would be not needed, and mostly be a waste. Second, how would one disable the ALSA driver/support for the "main board" sound card, and "point" it over to a secondary sound card. I guess this mother-board sound card is, as most supplied on the mother-board, just "barely" usable, and having an "out-board" card would provide more abilities, better sound, and more functionality... I just hoped that I could use the on-board sound card that worked in Windows, and with the "default" sound provided in Knoppix, would also do as well within ALSA - appears that this is not the case, oh well. So, anyone have any "good" recommendations on what sound card is best, good, stay away from - and can be used for "advanced" to "professional" sound recording quality, and be used with ALSA support - cost is an issue, but willing to go with "off brand" for the quality. Thanks for all the help, and on anyone assisting on me getting sound recording back on my system for my business, Casey On Saturday 13 March 2004 10:54, Bill Unruh wrote: > On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Casey Heshler wrote: > > Considering that this has had no responses for more than a few days, I am > > bringing it up for anyone new that has been added onto the list. > > I would advise recording in different ways. > > a) use arecord. > if the card is capable of 44100 use > arecord -f cd >/tmp/recording > and see if the noise is there in /tmp/recording. > b) Use the oss and some recording program like gnoise etc to record from > /dev/dsp. > > c) Try different inputs. If there is a mic input ratehr than line in, > use it (unmute the mic input and mute the linein.) > > d)Do it without monitoring the output-- ie switch off the output to se > fi that makes a difference. > > This kind of noise is not usual, which is probably why noone has > responded. Ie, no one has seen it befor and thus can offer no advice on > how to get rid of it. > > It is of course also possible that the card is defective, and a new > sound card would work better. While I have gotten the Maudio transit to > work and while it is a very nice usb based card and cheap, I would not > recommend it because of the current incompatibility with the Linux USB > software. (See www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/transit.html for the kludge > needed) but other soundcards also work well. > > The noise that I see on your recodings is very strange, and I am at a > loss as to how it could occur. One could suspect electrical noise except > one would expect more structure in the noise spikes if that were the > case. These are just delta function spikes with very little internal > structure (even though they extend over many samples). And they are not > consistant in height. > > > The noise issue has not been resolved, and continues to plague my > > recordings... > > > > System Specs: > > AMD 1.7GHz processor > > 512Meg RAM > > 500Meg Swap > > 41 Gig hard drive, with Knoppix v3.3 (2,4,22-xfs kernel) hard drive > > installed ALSA installed, and working... > > ALSA Information: > > Driver version 1.0.2c > > Sound Card: VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50 > > > > I wouldn't have brought this up a second time, if not for the fact that: > > One, my business is at a stand-still until I can get a "clean" recording, > > and two, this is still un-resolved. > > > > Thank you for anyone who can get me, and my business, back into running > > again... > > Casey > > > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 07:46, Casey Heshler wrote: > > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 18:15, Bill Unruh wrote: > > > > On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Casey Heshler wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 01:48, Bill Unruh wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Casey Heshler wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 01:20, Bill Unruh wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Casey Heshler wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 00:45, Bill Unruh wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Casey Heshler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > But PLEASE - before finally removing ALSA, record the > > > > > > > > > > > > type of static/noise you get and place it somewhere > > > > > > > > > > > > for others to download/diagnose. Otherwise you would > > > > > > > > > > > > have filed irate complaint after irate complaint > > > > > > > > > > > > without anyone being able to diagnose the issue with > > > > > > > > > > > > some helpful data. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would love for "someone" to hear what I am hearing - > > > > > > > > > > > I can post a 10 second WAV file, but my concern is - > > > > > > > > > > > how, and where, do I do this? Can I place the file in a > > > > > > > > > > > "common" local location, and then post the target > > > > > > > > > > > area??? > > > > > > > > > > Bill, didn't have ncftp, but I was able to follow your directions > > > > > on the "ftp" - the file (wav) has been placed where you asked, and > > > > > under the name you requested. Hope this helps with a little > > > > > diagnosis... > > > > > > > > The file is at > > > > ftp.theory.physics.ubc.ca/outgoing/heshler.wav > > > > and can be downloaded via anonymous ftp. > > > > > > > > And teh noise really looks like noise. It has different levels in the > > > > two channels, and is up to 40 bytes wide (10 samples) of consistant > > > > level-- ie the signal level does not change much in that 40 bytesi-- > > > > however the signal level in the two channels differs. It occurs in > > > > quiet areas and in "full volume" areas. (The max amplitude of the > > > > signal is about 50% of the max possible, and the noise spikes go up > > > > to about 25% but with very varied heights.) It looks almost like some > > > > sort of electical noise. > > > > > > > > Remind us again how this was recorded? > > > > > > This sound clip was recorded with ReZound, but I get it with "any" > > > recorder; Audacity, Sound-Recorder, and even KRecord - The sound clip > > > is coming in from a cassette tape deck in through the "Line In" of the > > > VIA Sound Card - with "Capture" set on the "Line In". > > > > > > The sound clip was "monitored" - i.e. I listen to the "Line In" while I > > > record, and the noise is not in the sound at that time. I have the > > > levels set to about 65% - I view and change the levels through > > > AlsaMixer, AlsaMixerGUI, and - my preferance - KMix - This recording > > > clip was done as a last ditch effort to eliminate possible "feedback" > > > from other channles - I muted all channels except for IGain in KMix, or > > > the "Capture" in the ALSA mixers, and still the noise, as apparent, was > > > still introduced. > > > > > > I playback through a combination of players, preferance being ReZound > > > because I think I need to change sample rates, from what I had problems > > > early on, my sample rate for my sound card appears to use 48KHz. But, I > > > also can use aplay, XMMS, ReZound, and Audacity for playback - most of > > > the time I need to use a player that has a "visual" editor, because > > > this "sound clip" is part of a 45 to 50 minute analog tape speach, that > > > I one-pass to digitize, then second pass, strip out each speach, final > > > pass is to remove pre and post silence and get the sound speach ready > > > for cd audio burning. Which is they business I provide for my > > > customers. > > > > > > Thank you Bill, for proving I am not insane, and that the noise is > > > "real". Hopefully someone can resolve this - as I said before - this > > > has "only" shown up since I changed to ALSA - it was not in my previous > > > sound with Knoppix/Debian, and nothing has been changed in the sound > > > system other than that. > > > > > > Casey ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
