On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote:

> On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 10:07 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 19:34 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>>>> Again, try a live-cd distribution first - it's much simpler than
>>>> compiling ALSA and probably kernel.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the latest Knoppix should be good - apparently the Riptide
>>> driver is rather new, and it will not be in the kernel until 2.6.17.  I
>>> think Knoppix has 2.6.17-rc*.
>>>
>>> It's still not good that Fedora has no way to install out-of-kernel ALSA
>>> drivers.
>>
>> Surely you can compile alsa and install it.
>>
>
> That's not exactly user friendly.
>
>> The problem of not being able to compile specific modules is an alsa
>> problem, not Rehat.
>
> I think it's a problem that FC5 does not have an RPM package containing
> these modules.

The philosophy of Mandrake and Redhat has been that updates are for
security concerns, not for upgrading the system. Upgrades are handled by
new releases and that trying to make sure that a particular upgrade works
together with 3 or 4 different distros would be a logistic nightmare. Given
that they do not even earn any money from doing so, finding the money
tohire people to do it becomes tough.

Ie, in that light it would be a good idea if alsa were more modular-- ie
that one could strip out say riptide and just compile that module. Now
often you can if you know what you are doing-- ie just compile that module,
or compile als and then just insert the snd-riptide module into the
/lib/modules.... location.  I have done that in the past with the usb
modules when I was trying to get the Transit soundcard working.

The problem as always id dependencies. Have the modules really beendesinged
to work on their own, or do they suddenly have weird dependencies to say
alsalib.

But in short I think that sking Redhat to do that is far less likely to
achieve anything than having alsa do it.


>
> Lee
>

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