-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:12:31 +0100 > Von: Patrick Ben Koetter <p...@state-of-mind.de> > An: amavis-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Betreff: Re: [AMaViS-user] [Fwd: Re: Amavis in pre-queue mode]
> * Steve <steeeeev...@gmx.net>: > > > I'm no expert on German law, but I do know that there are other > > > German system administrators who are not running amavisd in pre-queue > > > mode, so I wonder if perhaps someone has given you an overzealous > > > interpretation of the law. > > > > > I think that the original sender knows about the law. I am not a German > but > > I think that the German law says that you ARE ALLOWED to drop any > message as > > long as you don't have accepted the message. So having amavisd running > in > > For the books: Currently lawyers in Germany disagree on WHEN a message has > been accepted - when you accept the connection or at the end of DATA when > the > server says "OK". > Hey! I am Swiss and looking what is happening over in Germany in some area just makes me shake my head. But who am I? I don't get it and probably will never get some of those "strange" laws. > > pre-queue allows you to DROP the message and just send a normal SMTP > error > > code. That is allowed by law. > > This is what most of the German laywers seem to agree on, yes. > > > > But you are NOT ALLOWED to accept the mail and then later doing some > > processing where you ERASE/DROP/WHATEVER the mail. This is not allowed > by > > law. So you accept the mail -> you have to deliver the mail. > > Unless the message proves to be harmful... > Do the German layers and the German law agree on the definition of "harmful"? I would be surprised if so. > > That's probably the reason he wants to run amavisd in pre-queue because > this > > would allow him to fight spam/malware and block spam/malware and drop > > spam/malware without having to accept the mail. > > Usually one would want to drop unwanted messages as early as possible so > they > don't waste ressources by later inspections. > Yes. But if this means that running in such a way that this early dropping of unwanted messages results in more resources used compared to running in the "early mode", then I really don't see the point in this "early dropping". I don't agree with you that dropping early is equal in less resources used then dropping later. > > > amavisd can run in pre-queue mode but it is not a recommended > > > configuration for performance reasons. > > "it is not a recommended configuration" unless you know your average load > and > how your mail system can handle it. > > p...@rick > Steve > -- > All technical answers asked privately will be automatically answered on > the list and archived for public access unless privacy is explicitely > required and justified. > > saslfinger (debugging SMTP AUTH): > <http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/saslfinger/> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, > Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > _______________________________________________ > AMaViS-user mailing list > AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user > AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 > AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/ -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _______________________________________________ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
