"They have their own people to do that when THEY feel it's appropriate"

Kinda sums it up..................

The ones of us who subscribe to the AM reflector have seen, in print, the rather nasty note the Great Lakes director penned. And, we've seen the pages of QST and the ARRL Newsletter devoid of information pertaining to IARU proceedings of late.

Guess "they" don't think any of this is appropriate enough to warrant comment.

We've seen the ARRL jump the tracks any number of times where "they" made decisions that were not necessarily in the best interest of ham radio.

For the amateur community the ARRL is the only lobby in Washington we have to represent our collective radio interests. I expect them to represent me and all amateur operators fairly and to be forthcoming in their plans and decisions........BEFORE the fact, not after.

The IARU thing is a done deal. We can only wait for the other shoe(s) to drop beginning in January.

My crystal ball is no better or worse than the others on this reflector, but I firmly believe the IARU bandplan for Region 2 is the springboard for change that the ARRL will pursue with the FCC and ultimately result in major changes in Part 97............some of which will drastically affect many operators across the USA and maybe beyond.

It's just one man's opinion. I feel strongly about it. And to those who have taken similar views to the top of the ARRL and IARU, more power to you.

As before, YMMV...................

Best 73 to all

W4MIL
Chuck






-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] bandplan thoughts

Sorry Chuck but I'm not a spokesperson for the ARRL They have their own
people to do that when they feel it's appropriate. As a member, the ARRL
is my representative and spokesman in arenas where I have limited or no
access.

You said:  "I'm a simple ham who knows how to make a transmitter and
receiver work and who is not afraid to experiment to improve that
process. I wish to continue in the mode/emission manner that works well for me and many other hams worldwide. I don't think the ARRL leadership
is even remotely aware of the operating pleasure/challenges that many of
us encounter daily on the active ham bands."

In my opinion, I don't see anyone stopping you from continuing to what
you like to do as part of your ham radio activities.

You said: The "real" (ed. "real" I'll assume this is your own personal
definition) ham who can build a transmitter and receiver is ignored.  CW
is archaic!  A.M. is simply  a  bunch of guys who reject change.  To me,
there is something inherently wrong with this."

Lovers of homebrew, CW, AM, Digital, QRP, Packet, Contesting, traffic
nets, etc. are all "special interest" groups of ham radio operators. The
ARRL has said on a number of occasions that as long as there is interest
in these activities, the ARRL will continue to support them. The "etc"
probably includes dozens and dozens more. Trying to maintain an equitable
support for all them at the same time can be a monumental task even for
the ARRL.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:57:49 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, Pete:

You're a great spokesperson for the ARRL, IMHO.

You make the case I speak of.................  The ARRL will, in
conjunction with their advertisers, promote a mode/band plan
schedule
that will alllow the manufacturers to profit nicely. (Insert
here.....more QST ad revenues)  They will allow enough time for
firmware/software adjustments to be made which will allow, in your
words, "regulation by bandwidth probably would be a boom for new
manufacturer production.  I would suspect manufacturers would fully

support it down the road."  Your words are prophetic for the rice
box
merchants and fully in line with the suspected ARRL agenda.
Personally, I don't own stock in these rice box
companies............I'm not interested in their profits or
technological gains!   I'm a simple ham who knows how to make a
transmitter and receiver work and who is not afraid to experiment to

improve that process.  I wish to continue in the mode/emission
manner
that works well for me and many other hams worldwide.  I don't think

the ARRL leadership is even remotely aware of the operating
pleasure/challenges that many of us encounter daily on the active
ham
bands.

So, here's where we fall off the wagon.................. What about
all
the hams who are still experimenting, building and operating under
the
auspices of their current license permissions?  Who, in the ARRL or

otherwise, feels it is their place to dictate just what and where
the
ordinary ham operates?  We, as hams, know this already!  We don't
need
to be told or advised of what we already know.

Sure, the ARRL and the rice-box (or similar) manufacturers MUST fall
in
line with whatever a spectrum plan includes.  Otherwise, they
couldn't
make money and sell rigs.  Why wouldn't they agree with the ARRL?
They
are interested in bottom line profits.............not in Amateur
Radio.
 To think otherwise is naive.

And the ARRL?  It's interested in contributions to it's 401-C3 IRS
CODE
status....................

Manufacturers can help them maintain this status if THEY can make
the
market support their products.  Simple economics here!  Or
politics!

Dumbing down everything from no-code testing to proficiency exams
that
are nothing more that memory exercises is but one simple way to
"enlarge" the ranks of membership.  However, I suspect this is a
failed
mission.............just an extension of the prior agendas the ARRL
has
supported. (remember incentive licensing?)

Have you noticed the ARRL is "strongly" promoting Emergency
Communications as the prime reason Amateur radio even exists?
Simply because it has the attention of 9-11 and Katrina.  The "shack
on
a belt crowd" is highlighted.  The "real" ham who can build a
transmitter and receiver is ignored.  CW is archaic!  A.M. is simply
a
bunch of guys who reject change.  To me, there is something
inherently
wrong with this.  The first thing to die in an emergency is
bandwidth
provided by cable companies.  I live in Hurricane Alley in
Florida..............I know!

When will it end?   Who knows!   Maybe it won't............. But I
think it's important to quit kissing he ARRl's ass just because they

exist.  I, for one, will make my views known to whomever in the ARRL

structure is necessary  in an effort to stop the madness.

I don't object to the development of new technology.  In fact, I
like
it.  But I don't want it shoved down my throat.  And I sense there
are
many others out there who feel the same way.

But, in fairness, it's always YMMV.

Put the afterburners in full thrust.........................flame
suit
is intact.

Best 73 to all, es Merry Christmas  ( If this greeting is offensive,

simply insert your preferred greeting from me.  I will not take away

from it's meaning to you and my sincerity is the same)



W4MIL

Chuck
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