The people installing them and safing them and all the other things were mostly 
not rocket scientist that is why somewhere on AO-40 there is a "remove before 
flight" what we call in the business "flag" flying  RGO

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> On Sep 22, 2013, at 1:55 AM, "Angus McLeod" <amcl...@caribsurf.com> wrote:
> 
> As far as I know, the kick-motors used on the Phase-3 birds were NOT 
> cardboard tubes packed with homemade gunpowder.  They were commercial grade 
> motors obtained from the commercial aerospace industry.  If I am wrong about 
> this, and someone can jump in with facts, I'd be glad to hear.
> 
> 
>> On 09/21/2013 05:48 AM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:23:29PM +0600, R Oler wrote:
>>> While anything is possible I will be very surprised (pleasntly) if there is 
>>> another amateur radio satellite with a liquid propulsion system that is 
>>> managed by any amateur group that gets a ride into any sort of HEO transfer 
>>> orbit.Ion engines might be different but after AO-40 and its propulsion 
>>> issues the days of amateurs playing with rocket engines on commercial 
>>> flights I suspect is over.
>> This is something I've often wondered about.  "Oh hi, commercial rocket 
>> company, can we stick our homebrewed rocket into your billion dollar 
>> vehicle?"
>> 
>> When people with more oil than weapons stuff some mix of chemicals into a 
>> tube and crimp the end shut it's called an Improvised Explosive Device.  
>> We're supposed to somehow convince someone to let us tack our semitested 
>> bomb onto their flight?  I doubt they're going to go for it...
> 
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