I think you misread the mail...
He says that if we do a backend for Telepathy, he will create its own GUI with
Java... He doesn't ask anything... (Maybe he asks for the backend :p)
Phil
Thanks Phil!
Youness often misreads my e-mails, I think he doesn't like me :(
Le Thursday 01 June 2006 21:51, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
> Why are people asking for what they like, and not thinking about what is
> right...
> Yes, java development is really nice and fast! but java still has a lot of
> disadvantages for such a project, first, people hate it (:P), the JVM must
> be installed and is huge to download, so it's sad for dialup people. and
> yes, java is fast, it's even faster than C (really!) for processing, but
> the whole GUI part of Java is SLOW AS HELL, and yes, it is...
> also, please don't talk about that mercury crap :p
> I'm trying to think about what would be the most beneficial for all of us,
> as developers and for our users. So java is not the perfect solution (but
> not out of the way yet), and python/perl, pleaseeeee... we don't need any
> more integration/training phase.. + we need people to work, not stop bein
> motivated. Don't know about you python geeks, but in my case, I'm narrow
> minded and I don't want to know what python is :P (looks crappy to me)
>
> KKRT
>
> On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:34:41 -0400, Bruno Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > I'm not an amsn developer (please, don't kill me), but if you guys are
> > going
> > to develop a MSN backend for telepathy I'm willing to implement a
> > java/swing
> > frontend! (and no, java isn't slow as hell, and yes, mercury is a bugged
> > piece of crap) :D
> > Apart from java I prefer python (maybe with pygtk)...
> >
> > By the way, is telepathy suported on windows?
> >
> > On 6/1/06, NoWhereMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Youness Alaoui" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> > python, NO, perl, NO... I know these languages are popular, but I just
> >> > hate the syntax, and especially python, I heard so much about it, but
> >>
> >> I
> >>
> >> > never even felt the need to look at what the code looks like, I just
> >>
> >> hate
> >>
> >> > it from the start...
> >
> > Neither I like it so much, but maybe you have to think about it from
> >
> >> the point of view of ease of use, more than beauty itself (even if I
> >> agree
> >> a
> >> little with you :)).
> >> really, it doesn't look that bad ;)
> >> And btw, you said you didn't like tcl as well :D
> >>
> >> > moreover, the main reason why we'd avoid python (if everyone agrees
> >>
> >> with
> >>
> >> > me), is that we're tcl/tk programmers here.. learning a new language,
> >>
> >> no
> >>
> >> > thanks... C code is for those who knows C code, and there are a few in
> >> > here, and it's still the standard programming language...
> >> > if we could get the hell out of tcl/Tk (or any interpreted language),
> >>
> >> I
> >>
> >> > would 100% do it, the only problem with C code is that it's hard to
> >>
> >> create
> >>
> >> > GUIs with it (I think, anyways, I'm still under the trauma of my Qt
> >> > course...), while in Tk, it's as easy as stealing a cnady from a kid
> >>
> >> (who
> >>
> >> > ever invented this quote???), which is why we want to stick to Tk for
> >>
> >> our
> >>
> >> > GUI.
> >>
> >> As I said, gtk doesn't look that bad in every programming language (gtk
> >> is
> >> C). pygtk is just a wrapper
> >>
> >> > What you have said though made me realize that we might be going the
> >>
> >> wrong
> >>
> >> > way in some stuff...
> >> > we could drop the whole interpreter thing, the Data/ structures could
> >>
> >> be
> >>
> >> > held in C structure (don't talk about C++ because of ABI, but C++ is
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >> > nicest way to do it, I know!), and we could have a nice API to access
> >> > those...
> >> > and the GUI.. we could still use Tk inside C code with the Tk
> >>
> >> library...
> >>
> >> > no ?
> >>
> >> shoot me: I don't like how tk looks :D
> >> you have to compile yourself tcl/tk 8.5 just to have antialiased
> >> fonts...
> >> d'uh!
> >>
> >> > should we drop the .tcl files completly ?
> >>
> >> not to be repetitive (maybe you know it):
> >> http://tcl-gtk.sourceforge.net/:D
> >> ok, beat me :P
> >>
> >>
> >>
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