On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:07:32PM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote:
> 
> Op 30-mei-2007, om 19:19 heeft NoWhereMan het volgende geschreven:
> 
> > Karel Demeyer wrote:
> >
> >> * I think (you not I guess) an ordinary (a)MSN user watches the  
> >> status
> >> of an FT while in a chat with that specific user.  To see how much
> >> longer it will take before he can end the conversation for example.
> >> That's why I think it should at all time be possible to have a
> >> conversation open with a user on screen and the file transfer with
> >> that user at the same time.  This is not possible if you put the  
> >> ft in
> >> another tab of the chatwindow.
> >
> > I would go for this.
> >
> > I generally don't like d/l managers as the one seen in ffox (as you  
> > pointed
> > that out), I usually just don't like single-purpose windows  
> > floating around
> > my workspace, so the least they are, the better it is.
> > I think D/Ls notices/progbars should be docked somewhere in the  
> > chatwindow.
> >
> > That's a matter of *my* tastes, though.
> >
> > bye :)
> >
> >
> I agree. That last point in Karel's long e-mail, just makes the most  
> sense of all. And, as a consequence, I think, the way Youness  
> proposed would be the best way to show an FT. Just a simple line per  
> FT above the button bar in the CW. Clicking it might cause some FT  
> manager with more detailed info to pop up in any way (a separate  
> window would be best I think). In this case, there is no such problem  
> as 'loosing the FT window among all other windows', because the FT  
> window is not necessarily there when an FT is going on, but just when  
> the user asks for it. Also, when it is open already, and the user  
> clicks some FT in any CW, the FT window should just raise to front  
> (and not open a second one). This way, I think it would be perfectly  
> usable.
> 

agree, you would clik and it would focus in the ft manager, if you don't want 
it, then it won't show, as I said 
opera has 3 settings :
1 - show manager when ft starts (this opens up the file transfer tab whenever 
you download something)
2 - show manager in background when ft starts (if you download something, the 
file transfer tab is opened but 
you don't "switch to tab", it stays as a background tab)
3 - do not show manager when ft starts (you download as many as you want, it 
doesn't appear as long as you don't 
request it with the menu/hotkey)

and yes, the idea behind the manager is to have only one window for all 
transfers

> Btw. keep in mind that closing a CW should not stop any FT. So, there  
> should be another way of opening the FT window than only through  
> clicking an FT in a CW. Also when a conversation with the same  
> contact is openend again, while the FT is still going on, that FT  
> should appear in the CW again!!!
> 

yes, good point, but I think it's an implementation detail more than a design 
detail.

KaKaRoTo


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