Yeah, I know what you want, and I applaud it.  but because some ppl
here think we need a "manager" to find files further in history (the
case youness described of having 20 files sent), I proposed to put
this in the history.

Karel.

2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I didn't want to speak about long time histories but more about pending
> FTs... Those we display with the accept link : having it in the same
> list could be great IMO...
> Phil
>
> Karel Demeyer a écrit :
> > 2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Heey,
> >> so much speaking without me :'(
> >> Are you crazy to flood my mailbox like that ?
> >> Anyway, IMO, putting FTs in CL is a really bad idea as I think that many
> >> people don't look at it when they are in a speaking with someone so EVEN
> >> if HIG would say that I would be totally against.
> >
> > The HIG doesn't state "file transfer managers should be in the main
> > window";  it was just a choice to remove clutter.  A lot of usability
> > guidelines say you shouldn't open too much individual windows though.
> >
> >> By the way, HIG as
> >> some really strange ideas about notification icons...
> >
> > They declare 'm as "notification icons", instead of how it is used
> > mostly in windows: as a solution to the taskbar being too small for
> > all windows (which is a design flaw of the taskbar, so the taskbar
> > should be changed instead of using the notification tray as a
> > taskbar2)
> >
> >> And I hate Gnome
> >> :p (no j/k : I dislike it (piuuh I almost threw a troll on the ML :d) )
> >
> > :D
> >
> >> Anyway, about putting it in the same window that the discussion, I think
> >> that's a good idea : that let us always see the FT state but... I think
> >> it takes its place in the window (imagine my CW with no DPs : I want to
> >> maximum for the discussion because that's the aim of this window)
> >> Putting FTs embedded in the output text area is for me silly as we loose
> >> it too easily and I agree with many of you when you say that's a dl
> >> manager hasn't its place in aMSN (Youness please stop with Opera : as
> >> soon as a soft is closed source, it is EVIL :p)
> >> Browser have a dl manager because a user (you for example) downloads
> >> various things but it's always bound to your interests or sth like that.
> >> With IM, the FT is more bound to a user (there is context : you
> >> receive/send this file because you speak about sth precise with your
> >> contact).
> >> I still wonder how we could melt such a list in the chat window without
> >> any repacking (repacking is always ugly and all the window flicker :s)
> >> But if we find how to put this list, I would be to put FT requests also
> >> in it : like that, you can easily accept a past FT and that put every FT
> >> related things in the same place.
> >
> > Many therefor it's also easier to put it on the right underneath the
> > DP's of your contact(s) as it would take more lines)
> >
> >
> > About the need for a "manager" to find files that were sent to you in
> > the past: why not incoporate it in the chat history ?  the transfer
> > took place in a chat .. so if you want to find it again, you can
> > search that chat by date/contact and if we have it possible to put
> > (inside the chathistory) some interactive lines (an "open file" and
> > "open dir"  and "remove file" link, that is inactive if the file
> > doesn't exist anymore) ...  ideas ?
> >
> >
> >> Phil
> >> PS I will try to avoid looong mails like Youness ones. He would beat me
> >> too easily :d
> >>
> >> Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> >>> that's the point of the brainstorming :)
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:53:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote:
> >>>> Karel Demeyer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Again, I'd like the question(s) to rise: Do we really need an "FT
> >>>>> manager"? Isn't this a bit over-engineering ? Is it needed for an IM
> >>>>> program where file transfers are a nice feature but not the main
> >>>>> activity ? Do you think our users will transfer so many files at once
> >>>>> they need a manager because they can't manage 'm themselves ?
> >>>> I just don't like progress bars floating around...that's all
> >>>>
> >>>> it's true that file manager does have progress dialogs, but this is a -
> >>>> erm - IM program, does really an IM program need a dialog progress bar?
> >>>> *cough* :D
> >>>>
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