I didn't want to speak about long time histories but more about pending FTs... Those we display with the accept link : having it in the same list could be great IMO... Phil
Karel Demeyer a écrit : > 2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Heey, >> so much speaking without me :'( >> Are you crazy to flood my mailbox like that ? >> Anyway, IMO, putting FTs in CL is a really bad idea as I think that many >> people don't look at it when they are in a speaking with someone so EVEN >> if HIG would say that I would be totally against. > > The HIG doesn't state "file transfer managers should be in the main > window"; it was just a choice to remove clutter. A lot of usability > guidelines say you shouldn't open too much individual windows though. > >> By the way, HIG as >> some really strange ideas about notification icons... > > They declare 'm as "notification icons", instead of how it is used > mostly in windows: as a solution to the taskbar being too small for > all windows (which is a design flaw of the taskbar, so the taskbar > should be changed instead of using the notification tray as a > taskbar2) > >> And I hate Gnome >> :p (no j/k : I dislike it (piuuh I almost threw a troll on the ML :d) ) > > :D > >> Anyway, about putting it in the same window that the discussion, I think >> that's a good idea : that let us always see the FT state but... I think >> it takes its place in the window (imagine my CW with no DPs : I want to >> maximum for the discussion because that's the aim of this window) >> Putting FTs embedded in the output text area is for me silly as we loose >> it too easily and I agree with many of you when you say that's a dl >> manager hasn't its place in aMSN (Youness please stop with Opera : as >> soon as a soft is closed source, it is EVIL :p) >> Browser have a dl manager because a user (you for example) downloads >> various things but it's always bound to your interests or sth like that. >> With IM, the FT is more bound to a user (there is context : you >> receive/send this file because you speak about sth precise with your >> contact). >> I still wonder how we could melt such a list in the chat window without >> any repacking (repacking is always ugly and all the window flicker :s) >> But if we find how to put this list, I would be to put FT requests also >> in it : like that, you can easily accept a past FT and that put every FT >> related things in the same place. > > Many therefor it's also easier to put it on the right underneath the > DP's of your contact(s) as it would take more lines) > > > About the need for a "manager" to find files that were sent to you in > the past: why not incoporate it in the chat history ? the transfer > took place in a chat .. so if you want to find it again, you can > search that chat by date/contact and if we have it possible to put > (inside the chathistory) some interactive lines (an "open file" and > "open dir" and "remove file" link, that is inactive if the file > doesn't exist anymore) ... ideas ? > > >> Phil >> PS I will try to avoid looong mails like Youness ones. He would beat me >> too easily :d >> >> Youness Alaoui a écrit : >>> that's the point of the brainstorming :) >>> >>> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:53:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: >>>> Karel Demeyer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Again, I'd like the question(s) to rise: Do we really need an "FT >>>>> manager"? Isn't this a bit over-engineering ? Is it needed for an IM >>>>> program where file transfers are a nice feature but not the main >>>>> activity ? Do you think our users will transfer so many files at once >>>>> they need a manager because they can't manage 'm themselves ? >>>> I just don't like progress bars floating around...that's all >>>> >>>> it's true that file manager does have progress dialogs, but this is a - >>>> erm - IM program, does really an IM program need a dialog progress bar? >>>> *cough* :D >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >>>> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >>>> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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