content. is NEVER. network-related-abuse.
'making more use of a mail protocol that in every other way
is used as intended' is also not 'network-related-abuse' in
fact it's not abuse at all. it's like tv advertisements.
'malware and virusses' all simply exploit the same old
services 'provided' by crappy windows malware, which should
get some import restrictions, and the problem is solved ay.
it's windows itself that is the malware there...
'phishing'... so you're saying your bank login procedure
sucks balls and/or you think 16 numbers on the front and 3
top secret ones on the back of a plastic card people show in
every restaurant they go to are 'security' - go fix your own
crap and stop bothering us, we forward -packets-. we don't
have time to hunt ghosts for your broken financial services.
'announcing the whole god damn internet split up into
/24s'.. - yes .. that's 'abuse'. lol.
and either way... if someone doesn't like what someone else
is doing they can take them to the -appropriate- courts (of
the other party) and try to get them to stop... blackmailing
the sales department of the transit carriers of their
supplier of their supplier of their supplier, will only make
them change isps, cause financial loss (or gains: setup
fees), etc.
so far all spamhaus has ever established is:
- a whole lot of unroutable/unsellable/unusable ipv4
'burned' ranges.
- smtp is no longer peer to peer (their bashing on open relays)
- smtp is no longer real time (graylisting)
- smtp is no longer reliable (with over 20 million ip
addresses listed despite there only being 300k mailservers
in the world, no wonder!)
so instead of stopping spam, they managed to kill of smtp.
congratulations.
everyone now uses skype and facebook (which are real-time
and do have friends-lists) lolol. you have succeeded in
bringing microsoft and facebook users to spy on. well done.
if smtp is 'getting less' that is only because it has no
users left. people only start it up to read ripe
mailinglists (lol) or sign up for habbo hotel. FACT. lol.
none of our customers has ever sent UCE from our networks...
because... ever since 2004... we have simply blocked port
25... smtp only causes -shit- and it -delivers shit-
(abusemail and 'legal' threats about shit that is not our
problem). we sure as hell have some customers that cause
'shit' but they usually do it in somewhat more profitable
markets than sending 'spam' and most definately can buy a tv
station or 2 to do their advertisements on. tyvm spamhaus. lol.
where this 'mytical' spammer that can pay our 1000-1500
euros per month per server would come from, i don't know, i
certainly have never met any... i tried to invoice one 60k
once and he backed off already. poor spammers. they're like
child porn people. can't pay for anything, so not an urgent
issue at all.
our customers frequently have the entire fucking cia rolling
over their doorstep and if it's not them its the god damn
copyright mafia. slightly different budgetarial picture
there. shit that -is- worth the trouble.
now, please take your shitty nagging about 'abuse' of your
crappy silly old smtp protocol, which doesn't even
-originate- from our networks in the first fucking place,
and stick it where the sun doesn't shine... as for
malware... windows is the malware there... it facilitates
all the programs residing on top of the same old 1990s badly
implemented os/2 ripoff crap. so basically call mickeysoft
and ask them to fix the bugs they all exploit, or call the
european commission and impose trade bans against microsoft.
simple enough.
On 30 ينا, 2017 م 12:13, HRH Prince Sven Olaf von
CyberBunker wrote:
advertising the sale of : viagra, sex slaves, ak47s, porn
of any kind, human trafficing services, specific animals,
cocain, data obtained through espionage, encryption
technology, vpns, gay propaganda, military propaganda, etc
is subject to applicable local law (if any, and if there is
none, it's perfectly fine)... not 'spamhaus policies' as
spamhaus is not supposed to be 'the internet government'.
even if they think they should be.
if the uk wants to keep certain products from entering
'their' territory (and in doing so limit the freedom of
their own stakeholders/tax payers) that is up to them
others choose not to work against their own
stakeholders/tax payers that way. they have a customs
department to keep said products outside. can't tell others
not to produce or sell or advertise it. setting up dirty
front operations like 'spamhaus' to lure naive nerds into
the illusion that they would be 'fighting spam' is a very
nasty thing to do. geo-political wise and business wise.
now... in thailand porn is illegal... so... let's
disconnect all porn sites because thailand wants us to, oh
but wait, thailand doesn't have a 'spamhaus' thinking they
rule the entire internet through means of blackmail and
calling people 'spammers' or 'spam supporters'.
what also works, besides blackmailing with committing
computer sabotage against the sales department of suppliers
of suppliers of suppliers of the publisher of a website,
are: assassins, commandos, carpet bombing, agent orange.
etc... all of which should be deployed against spamhaus if
you ask me. :P but a nullroute would suffice. lol. after
all bgp is an 'advisory' to 'voluntary peers' and 'we don't
block anything' as they themselves always say.
On 30 ينا, 2017 ص 11:29, Esa Laitinen wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:19 PM HRH Prince Sven Olaf von
CyberBunker <sv...@xs4all.nl <mailto:sv...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
also it's quite vague that when some mossadis rent
servers and run an espionage botnet on it (which we
happily intercept ourselves ofcourse) - spamhaus
somehow magically never lists -that-.. just
Looking at the amusing rant of Sven Olaf, it seems that
the listing works!
Keep up the good work, spamhaus et al!
esa
